Why Homosexuality Must NOT Be Criminalized
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Arthur Brain
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Well, no, cos if that was the case then by the 'strength' of your argument then everyone's potentially homosexual and that's obviously not the case. Everyone lies at some point and most people likely steal in some event even if it's accepting more change than they should have in a shop.
Also, why do those who are so insistent on homosexuality being a "choice" so often go :vomit: when talking about it?
Projectile vomit is one thing but if the supposed people who insist it's a choice are sick at the prospect then how could they choose such themselves?
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glassjester
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That seemed to be the case in Athens, a couple millennia ago.
glassjester
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There are people who claim their orientation changed. Are they all lying?
Yes, you can train yourself to like Beyonce songs.
glassjester
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I'm a devoted Christian who happens to realize that God is just and that God is wiser than we are.
It isn't about Old Testament anything. It's about justice.
There are very seriously evil people who live in this world. I want there to be as few people who decide to be one of those as possible, as does God. This is the primary purpose of criminal justice - to prevent crime and thereby prevent the harm it causes.
There is no such thing as a perfect system but I figure God's ideas about criminal justice are better than mine or yours or anyone else's. But, biblically speaking, it is a complex issue. Not every law in the bible makes sense to enact outside of the nation of Israel because many of them had to do with Israel's religious practices and God's attempt to keep their nation separated from other nations so as to preserve a pure bloodline through which the Messiah would come in fulfillment of scripture. So, you have to actually study and understand what the heck you're talking about. You can't simply crack open the book of Leviticus and start enacting laws. You have to use discernment to seperate moral laws that would apply universally from laws that applied only to Israel.
Just to give an example of what I'm talking about, one way you can tell a religious law from a moral one is that one moral law cannot contradict another. Take circumcision and the Sabbath, for example. Israel was required to circumcise their male children on the eighth day after birth and they were also prohibited from working on the Sabbath. Circumcision was considered a work of the flesh and so what happens if a child's eighth day lands on Saturday? Do you circumcise him or not? Which law do you break? In this case, you would circumcise because circumcision came before the Sabbath laws but such regulations about which laws take precedence of other laws do not exist for issues of morality. You can never be faced with the dilemma of deciding to burglarize someone's home to keep from burning it down or having to choose between raping someone to keep from murdering them.
This kind of thought process and others like it is what is required if you want to have and to maintain a biblical worldview and to hold positions of various issues that you won't be embarrassed by on judgment day.
You think you're wiser and more merciful than God. You're wrong. Policies like the ones you advocate produce more harm to more people than you can know.
Psalms 119:Consider my affliction and deliver me,
For I do not forget Your law.
154 Plead my cause and redeem me;
Revive me according to Your word.
155 Salvation is far from the wicked,
For they do not seek Your statutes.
156 Great are Your tender mercies, O Lord;
Revive me according to Your judgments.
157 Many are my persecutors and my enemies,
Yet I do not turn from Your testimonies.
158 I see the treacherous, and am disgusted,
Because they do not keep Your word.
159 Consider how I love Your precepts;
Revive me, O Lord, according to Your lovingkindness.
160 The entirety of Your word is truth,
And every one of Your righteous judgments endures forever.
For I do not forget Your law.
154 Plead my cause and redeem me;
Revive me according to Your word.
155 Salvation is far from the wicked,
For they do not seek Your statutes.
156 Great are Your tender mercies, O Lord;
Revive me according to Your judgments.
157 Many are my persecutors and my enemies,
Yet I do not turn from Your testimonies.
158 I see the treacherous, and am disgusted,
Because they do not keep Your word.
159 Consider how I love Your precepts;
Revive me, O Lord, according to Your lovingkindness.
160 The entirety of Your word is truth,
And every one of Your righteous judgments endures forever.
Resting in Him,
Clete
A point I have already agreed with multiple times on this thread alone.
The word homosexuality can just as easily refer to the act as it can the condition. DUH!
That's not true. The ratio of boys and girls in reported molestation cases is nearly 50/50. If you're a man and you like small boys, then you are gay. I know that's an inconvenient fact for you libs and atheists, but don't be a tool and try to split hairs on 'homosexuality' and 'pedophilia' in that regard, seriously
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Greg Jennings
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Those are labels. What you did to earn that label is the sin
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it's nice that you believe that - it means you haven't totally given yourself over to depravity
good job! :thumb:
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right - it's a perversion of your morality that ends with you no longer recognizing right from wrong
same thing happens with sexual perversion
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if you're virtuous, you don't allow yourself to be tempted by sexual immorality of any kind
if you're not virtuous (iow, if you reject God) then you leave yourself open to any perverted temptation
exactly!
everybody is potentially homosexual, or adulterous, or a theif, or a murderer, or a child molester, etc, etc
Does saying things like this help you feel better about yourself?
historically that has been the case.
Hate works the same way.
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Does saying things like this help you feel better about yourself?
Arthur Brain
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It's simply the way it is dude. That you think it's 'nice' or a 'belief' is really beside the point. My breads buttered one way only...
Arthur Brain
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Nah, if you're straight you can be enticed by, give in to or reject sexual temptation. Those desires don't turn homosexual if acted on and it's loony to suggest they can. You reckon Hefner or Trump are sexually virtuous?
Er, no...
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