toldailytopic: How do you feel about building a mosque at ground zero?

[Son of Jack]

What mosque? The external world is a lie. :idunno:

Thanks, Plotinus...:idunno:

 

[Arthur Brain]

I fully agree with you here.

You don't think that there's plenty of Muslims who wish to coexist in peace as well? :squint:

 

[madman]

Hmm. I live a couple of streets away from a local mosque. We have a fair share of Muslims in the area and funnily enough there's been no trouble at all. I guess they must all be scheming against the 'enemy' right? Get a grip. When you do you might just be in a position to criticise other people's intelligence. Maybe. Possibly. Well probably not but get a grip anyway. :e4e:

The differences YOU see in Muslims, and the conflicts between Muslims, has to do with strategy, not agenda. By violence or by stealth, the goal is the same.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Thanks, Plotinus...:idunno:

Drink your coffee. You'll feel better....

lain:

 

[Arthur Brain]

The differences YOU see in Muslims, and the conflicts between Muslims, has to do with strategy, not agenda. By violence or by stealth, the goal is the same.

It's a wonder you walk out of your front door. What you're implying is as nuts as equating Fred Phelps blather with Christianity. Of course it's just plain insanity to think that most just want to live in peace with their families and coexist right?

 

[Son of Jack]

Drink your coffee. You'll feel better....

lain:

I hope there is something more in it than sugar and creamer...lain:

 

[Traditio]

I hope there is something more in it than sugar and creamer...lain:

I once put Jack Daniels in my coffee. It wasn't nearly as good as I expected it to be. lain:

 

[madman]

It's a wonder you walk out of your front door. What you're implying is as nuts as equating Fred Phelps blather with Christianity.

You are sadly naive.

Of course it's just plain insanity to think that most just want to live in peace with their families and coexist right?

Taqiyya

Islam

 

[MrRadish]

As a friend of mine commented earlier today: It's a bit hypocritical for us to complain about creating a mosque next to Ground Zero, when in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan we've been creating Ground Zeroes next to mosques for almost a decade.

 

[Arthur Brain]

You are sadly naive. Taqiyya

Islam

Um, no. I'm just not deluded and paranoid. I live amongst these people and have done for years. Blanketing people for the extremism of a minority is pretty pathetic.

 

[Arthur Brain]

I hope there is something more in it than sugar and creamer...lain:

Well there's some spare cyanide if you want?

 

[Town Heretic]

I once put Jack Daniels in my coffee. It wasn't nearly as good as I expected it to be. lain:

Whiskey isn't for pouring things into, lad. It's for pouring into. In moderation, of course.

 

[zoo22]

Fact, that you deny, not Islam.

Please explain.

 

[madman]

Please explain.

You said "baloney", when it is a fact that Islam will not deny regarding the deaths of children from collateral damage. That is how they justify it.

 

[Traditio]

Well there's some spare cyanide if you want?

Pass it over this way. I could use some...

Cyanide - Metallica

 

[kmoney]

What mosque? The external world is a lie. :idunno:

The cake is a lie. lain:

 

[kmoney]

As a friend of mine commented earlier today: It's a bit hypocritical for us to complain about creating a mosque next to Ground Zero, when in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan we've been creating Ground Zeroes next to mosques for almost a decade.

I saw that comment on Twitter, linked to from Reddit. :think:

 

[Non-Excluvistic]

As a friend of mine commented earlier today: It's a bit hypocritical for us to complain about creating a mosque next to Ground Zero, when in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan we've been creating Ground Zeroes next to mosques for almost a decade.

Or how about the Christian missionary groups that have been allowed to go and try to convert people in Iraq and other places. Where is the sensitivity there?

 

[Non-Excluvistic]

Though I realize this will seem politically incorrect, I believe it is in bad taste to build a mosque at ground zero.

Even though I realize that not all Muslims are terrorists, to the family members of those victims who died on 9/11, it is disrespectful. These are the individuals whose feelings should be taken into account.

The mosque can be built elsewhere ... however, the deaths of all of those who lost their lives on 9/11 will forever be linked to this sacred spot.

Why in the world should grieving families who want to visit this spot have to view a building which is representative of the terrorists who did the deed?

As opposed to viewing the one that the builder currently has 5 blocks away from ground zero? The new one will be 3 blocks away. And what about people who attend the current mosque 5 blocks away? They lost family on 911 too. It seems like a bunch of paranoia for no reason. New mosque more offensive than the current one 5 blocks away?

 

[kmoney]

Though I realize this will seem politically incorrect, I believe it is in bad taste to build a mosque at ground zero.

As others have pointed out, it isn't really at ground zero. At least it depends on how you define "ground zero".

Even though I realize that not all Muslims are terrorists, to the family members of those victims who died on 9/11, it is disrespectful. These are the individuals whose feelings should be taken into account.

Unless the builders of this mosque are like-minded with the terrorists who attacked us, how is it disrespectful?

The mosque can be built elsewhere ... however, the deaths of all of those who lost their lives on 9/11 will forever be linked to this sacred spot.

I will partially agree that the mosque and cultural center could be built somewhere else and I kind of wish Rauf had never started this. But since we're here....

Why in the world should grieving families who want to visit this spot have to view a building which is representative of the terrorists who did the deed?

The mosque shouldn't represent the terrorists, though. In my opinion, it only represents the terrorists to those who wrongly believe we are at war with Islam. Fighting this mosque just feeds into that wrong conception. And it risks making violent extremists out of moderates.