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'Obedience' is not something anything can teach you, unless that thing is the Spirit dwelling inside of you.
That is not true. The Holy Spirit lives inside those who believe and obey.

John 14:23 Jesus replied, "Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.


Did you read that?

The Father and Jesus come to live with those who obey.

The Scriptures, as Paul said, are useful for reproof, but when it comes down to it, it is God living inside of you that determines all that you do.

God does not make anyone sin.

James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

James 1:14
But each one is tempted when by his own evil desires he is lured away and enticed.
 

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God does not make anyone sin.

Except for Pharaoh, right?

That was the special exception, where God merely chose to be omniscient and immutable for a second, before giving man back the steering wheel :rolleyes:

The fact is that what you see there is God fulfilling His will, just as He does with everything else.
 

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Because it contradicts what they wish it to mean...rather than admit we can fail, need repentance or a return as repentance means...we might even be cut off...sent out of camp...they just ignore or get clever...

It's just like purgatory...His grace not sufficient enough to save completely and immediately one must enter purgatory after death for purificationing still...additional re-tooling by Satan...

Same case here...sure he was saved just needed some fine tuning by Satan...lol

Pretty clever...

I agreed with your first part but am wondering about the second part. You put down others and claim they are Catholic when they are not, so why are you speaking of purgatory?
 

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Except for Pharaoh, right?

That was the special exception, where God merely chose to be omniscient and immutable for a second, before giving man back the steering wheel :rolleyes:

The fact is that what you see there is God fulfilling His will, just as He does with everything else.

God hardening Pharaoh is proof that Calvinism is false.

If man did not have free will, then how is it that God had to harden him?
 

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yes all our good works is if we think by them we can pay our way in...clean that which already is HOLY
You are not making sense this time.
We are talking about the filthy rag scripture and it is about BLOOD.
It is about a dirty blood offering.
It is NOT about people obeying. It is about people NOT obeying and then giving a required blood offering.
 

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"Formerly, when you did not know God, you were enslaved to those that by nature are not gods. But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how can you turn back again to the weak and worthless elementary principles of the world, whose slaves you want to be once more? "

They were CELTS never knew God or rather now God knows them...why now because they are finally keeping His law...they were not before because they were enslaved by their own customs...pagan ways are weak and worthless and elementary principles of the world...YAH's LAW IS NOT...weak worthless or a elementary principle of the world...it is of YAH...

After Jesus came, the command to observe special days is now worthless.
The Galatians were being judaizised.

They were talked into getting circumcised and they were talked into observing special days.
 

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God hardening Pharaoh is proof that Calvinism is false.

If man did not have free will, then how is it that God had to harden him?

Calvinism isn't a rejection of free will, it's an anathema of preaching free will, for it's denominating and self-righteous effect on laity, and an exposition on predestination.

When you preach free will, you cease preaching God, and dismiss his Sovereignty for your own control.

God always had control of Pharaoh, the scripture simply reveals it as it unfolds.
 

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Calvinism isn't a rejection of free will, it's an anathema of preaching free will, for it's denominating and self-righteous effect on laity, and an exposition on predestination.

When you preach free will, you cease preaching God, and dismiss his Sovereignty for your own control.

God always had control of Pharaoh, the scripture simply reveals it in the course of the event.

Again, God hardening Pharaoh is proof that we have free will.

YOU said God makes us do everything that we do.

God would not have to harden Pharaoh if he didn't have free will.
 

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Calvinism isn't a rejection of free will, it's an anathema of preaching free will, for it's denominating and self-righteous effect on laity, and an exposition on predestination.

When you preach free will, you cease preaching God, and dismiss his Sovereignty for your own control.

God always had control of Pharaoh, the scripture simply reveals it as it unfolds.

We shall know them by their fruits, and there are no tulips on grape vines.
 

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You're not listening.

God always had control of Pharaoh, the scripture simply reveals it as the exodus turned.

You are the one who is not listening.

There is no way around the Truth.

If man did not have free will, then God would not have needed to harden Pharaoh.

It disproves Calvinism, not proves it.
 

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to stay saved...obey until the race is run and we are judged worthy for running the race to the end...endured...at the END it is here are they that KEEP the Laws of GOD and the Testimony of Jesus Christ...notice KEEP not kept and then kept something else...or kept only once...and then whatever it's grace

sense ain't common...and we are not to be...

But a set apart peculiar people...sanctified by a sign...

Remember...remember what? Him His...it endures...as we should

You don't remember what you said? You said we have to obey to get saved and you told me to deal with it that you admit it.
 
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