ISRAEL IS THE FOCAL POINT OF THE BELIEVERS

[Nanja]

What you believe is the mockery, You BELIEVE in election for the church but not for the Jews...God says according to their election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers.

You have fallen into the haughtiness toward the Jews that Paul warns against

Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles how much more their fullness

For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world what shall the receiving of them be but life from the dead?

For if the firstfruits be holy the lump is holy also and if the root be holy so are the branches

Boast not against the branches but if thou boast thou bearest not the root but the root bearest thee.

For I would not have Nanja ignorant of this mystery lest she be wise in her own conceits, that blindness in part is happened unto Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles be brought in.

It is from these scriptures that we learn that Israel has been laid aside and will be brought back in when the full number of the gentiles come in...the famous parenthesis.

The Election of Grace Rom. 11:5 are the True Jews: The Church Christ gave His Life for Eph. 5:25!

Human ethnicity is not the criteria which determines whom God Saves.

The True Jews Rom. 2:29 are the only Israel that was Promised Salvation Is. 45:17: jews and Gentiles from all the nations of the earth Rev. 5:9; 14:6; Chosen in union with Christ before the foundation of the world Eph. 1:4-5; 2 Tim. 1:9; John 17:2.

The same are the Seed of Abraham Christ took upon Himself to die for Heb. 2:16; Gal. 3:16.

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[patrick jane]

For I would not have Nanja ignorant of this mystery lest she be wise in her own conceits, that blindness in part is happened unto Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles be brought in.

:chuckle:

 

[Nanja]

:chuckle:

Please tell us in your own words the meaning of Rom. 11:25.

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[patrick jane]

Please tell us in your own words the meaning of Rom. 11:25.

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It means exactly what it says except it's better when Tots puts your name in there

 

[Nanja]

It means exactly what it says except it's better when Tots puts your name in there

Coward. Give us your explanation of Rom. 11:25 your own words.

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[PneumaPsucheSoma]

Amillennialism is anti-Semitism and contributed to the holocaust...because of that doctrine the church kept silent.

They're not Semitic. And the rest is laughable. What did Dispensationalists do about the holocaust? How vocal were they? LOL. Not.

 

[intojoy]

Coward. Give us your explanation of Rom. 11:25 your own words.

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Teeheehee


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[intojoy]

They're not Semitic. And the rest is laughable. What did Dispensationalists do about the holocaust? How vocal were they? LOL. Not.

They approved the modern state of Israel. Plain


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[PneumaPsucheSoma]

hmm? Dispensationaliam and premillinealism is much worse... because it cares not for the Jews soul... it only cares about its bizarre interpretation being fullfilled and dam anyone that gets in their way.

Exactly. It's merely a self-serving affection that is socio-political and denies Christ. They are bigoted racists and respecters of persons, and misrepresenting God to be so.

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

They approved the modern state of Israel. Plain


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{cough} Balfour Declaration {cough}

Japhetites and Hamites are not Semitic.

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

They approved the modern state of Israel. Plain


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Dispensationalists did that? Not!!

 

[intojoy]

Today is Pentecost, the birth of the church


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[intojoy]

{cough} Balfour Declaration {cough}

Japhetites and Hamites are not Semitic.

What connection did that have with Schofield or Chafer?
None..


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[PneumaPsucheSoma]

What connection did that have with Schofield or Chafer?
None..


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Exacty the point. Totters insisted Amillennialism contributed to the Holocaust by influencing silence. But Dispensationalists didn't do or say anything to prevent it, so it's an empty accusation. Strawman.

You bigoted racist respecters of persons have the most monumentally naive double standards of anyone who has drawn breath in human history. The 19th-century heretical schismatic false doctrine of Dispensationalism is one of the few greatest blights on the Christian faith in its entire two millennia.

 

[intojoy]

Exacty the point. Totters insisted Amillennialism contributed to the Holocaust by influencing silence. But Dispensationalists didn't do or say anything to prevent it, so it's an empty accusation. Strawman.

You bigoted racist respecters of persons have the most monumentally naive double standards of anyone who has drawn breath in human history. The 19th-century heretical schismatic false doctrine of Dispensationalism is one of the few greatest blights on the Christian faith in its entire two millennia.

Delicious


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[Totton Linnet]

No.

The glorying in the flesh Israel (as if they are the chosen people) is what Hitler despised because he considered his white race to be the chosen ones for the thousand years.

Read history correctly.

The RCC backed Hitler.

LA

Why do you just make things up? Hitler never said anything about Israel being chosen, he hated them actually because he was one of those who recognised that actually the Jews do run everything...love them or loathe them they do.

The Jews also these 2,000 years have not swaggered but have rather sighed and groaned under their status as God's chosen people. The WHOLE church [apart from a few individuals] kept silent....that will cost the church dearly during the tribulation, Israel might have provided a refuge from the antichristal storm, a covert, a hiding place. But Israel will remember the church stood by during their time of anguish.

Israel will not be converted until the Lord comes in the clouds and they will look upon Him who they have pierced and mourn for Him as for a firstborn son.

 

[Totton Linnet]

Why do you just make things up? Hitler never said anything about Israel being chosen, he hated them actually because he was one of those who recognised that actually the Jews do run everything...love them or loathe them they do.

The Jews also these 2,000 years have not swaggered but have rather sighed and groaned under their status as God's chosen people. The WHOLE church [apart from a few individuals] kept silent....that will cost the church dearly during the tribulation, Israel might have provided a refuge from the antichristal storm, a covert, a hiding place. But Israel will remember the church stood by during their time of anguish.

Israel will not be converted until the Lord comes in the clouds and they will look upon Him who they have pierced and mourn for Him as for a firstborn son.

Even after the church SAW what had been done to the Jews she did not repent, she did not turn to comfort the Jews or seek to dress their wounds...they were aloud to slink away and lick their wounds.

This is what doctrines do...dear Nangalita says I think too much about carnal Israel "what is left of them"

What a thing to say, yes I do think much about what happened to them....

 

[beameup]

Why do you just make things up? Hitler never said anything about Israel being chosen, he hated them actually because he was one of those who recognised that actually the Jews do run everything...love them or loathe them they do.

Usury was forbidden in the Medieval Catholic Church, so money was borrowed at interest from Jews (thus establishing the banking system, which Jews had learned in Babylon). The House of Rothschild made a fortune financing wars, as the King would later tax his people and repay the loans at interest.

 

[Totton Linnet]

Exacty the point. Totters insisted Amillennialism contributed to the Holocaust by influencing silence. But Dispensationalists didn't do or say anything to prevent it, so it's an empty accusation. Strawman.

You bigoted racist respecters of persons have the most monumentally naive double standards of anyone who has drawn breath in human history. The 19th-century heretical schismatic false doctrine of Dispensationalism is one of the few greatest blights on the Christian faith in its entire two millennia.

Did Paul have a dispensation? did Aaron and Moses have a dispensation? did Abraham?, Noah?

The Noahic dispensation is called by theologians the dispensation of hope, did you know that?

What are you talking about, did you just now dare to call God a bigoted, racist, respecter of persons because He chose the Jews?

 

[Totton Linnet]

Usury was forbidden in the Medieval Catholic Church, so money was borrowed at interest from Jews (thus establishing the banking system, which Jews had learned in Babylon). The House of Rothschild made a fortune financing wars, as the King would later tax his people and repay the loans at interest.

I didn't say they are not tricky...Jacob was tricky, when he had relieved Laban of his wealth he fled [this was Jacob's time of trouble] And another unfulfilled prophecy concerning the Jews is that they are going to milk the nations dry and bring the wealth of the nations with them when they return.

You bet the nations will chase them, just as Laban chased Jacob....but Jacob was protected.