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Paul: The Commandments Made Me Want to Lust and Sin
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Layer upon layer of understanding within the Word; plus, microcosm view of things, macrocosm view of things.
New heaven = mind of Christ. New earth = glorified body. Peace
I don't follow that.
We are all sinners and are subject to the law.
The scripture plainly says that the law made Paul want to lust and sin.
You can slice it anyway that you want to, but the scripture still says the same thing.
"When the commandment came, sin revived and I died" Romans 7:9.
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SPIRITUAL IN THE GARDEN AND ANIMALISTIC IN THE WILDERNESS.
SATAN PRODUCED PHYSICAL ANIMALS THAT WERE AGGRESSIVE AND REPRODUCTIVE.
THEREFORE, GOD MADE US PHYSICAL AND SATAN GAVE US A CHEMICALLY INFUSED APPLE SO THAT, WE WOULD BE AGGRESSIVE AND REPRODUCTIVE.
That is why GOD said, GO FORTH AND MULTIPLY
JUST LIKE THE ANIMALS THAT YOU ARE.
SATAN PRODUCED PHYSICAL ANIMALS THAT WERE AGGRESSIVE AND REPRODUCTIVE.
THEREFORE, GOD MADE US PHYSICAL AND SATAN GAVE US A CHEMICALLY INFUSED APPLE SO THAT, WE WOULD BE AGGRESSIVE AND REPRODUCTIVE.
That is why GOD said, GO FORTH AND MULTIPLY
JUST LIKE THE ANIMALS THAT YOU ARE.
So if a sign said no right turn on red that would make you turn right on red, is that correct?
It might make you want to.
Let's face it. Everyone is full of sin and rebellion, including you.
It's something we must overcome, Edgar Poe called it the Imp of the Perverse.
I have said thus much, that in some measure I may answer your question, that I may explain to you why I am here, that I may assign to you something that shall have at least the faint aspect of a cause for my wearing these fetters, and for my tenanting this cell of the condemned. Had I not been thus prolix, you might either have misunderstood me altogether, or, with the rabble, have fancied me mad. As it is, you will easily perceive that I am one of the many uncounted victims of the Imp of the Perverse. (Poe)
Paul explained it this way, "For if you live according to the flesh you will die, but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body you will live." (Romans 8:13)
We are united with Christ and he is not a sinner, so neither are we.
Jesus prayed, "I in them and You in Me that they may be made perfect in one..." (John 17:23)
Sin is less than perfect.
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A chemically infused apple??? Where did you get this from?
Once again, let's look at the pattern. There were 2 trees in the midst of the garden. What 2 "trees" are in the midst (inner court) of the Tabernacle pattern?
1) the golden candlestick, representing the tree of life/Spirit
2) the table of showbread, representing the letter that killeth which also has a "snake" (carnal beastly mind-to be carnally minded is death) as a bonus "prize" if you eat of it WITHOUT the Spirit ie. permission of and enablement of, the Spirit. For I knew not what sin was until the law came.....
The same is true today. Had they obeyed, He would have granted them permission to eat of both. Adam actually already WAS "eating" of both for HaShem brought the animals before him to see what Adam would name them. Name denotes nature. To eat means to consume. You can't give something it's nature unless you're already one with it/know it. You know what they say, you are what you eat.
Sorry, couldn't resist....True communion = eating the table of showbread/bread with the light of the candlestick/Spirit/wine.
Adam walked with HaShem in the cool of the day. Cool there runs into a meaning of "breath". Adam walked in the Spirit with HaShem until he disobeyed. So do we, if we are IN that Spirit and that Spirit is IN us. Peace
Anything that tells us to do something or not to do something is law.
Just think of it as a lawful order by a superior.
A good Son does not need instructions. He knows what is required and lives accordingly.
If you are a rebellious sinner then you need the law 1 Timothy 1:9, 10.
This is where it is difficult because a good son should know what is required. This is where good teaching came into play. Meaning, with good teaching and training a boy can grow up living as he should.
That's the opposite of Paul said. He said, "What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law." (Romans 7:7 NKJV)
The Bible is an instruction manual on how we should live.
Your arrogant attitude is showing. Arrogance is not of Jesus.
Jesus' word is all about instructions, law, of love..
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ROBERT PATE DOES NOT WANT TO MONKEY WITH MY CONCLUSIONS
BECAUSE HE WILL NOT ADMIT THE WE ARE ANIMALS WITH A SPIRIT
PUT IN US BY JEHOVAH IN THE BEGINNING WHEN HE BREATHED INTO ADAM.
ANIMALS DIE AND WE DIE A PHYSICAL DEATH THE SAME AS ANIMALS.
Ge 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Ge 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
Ge 2:20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.
BECAUSE HE WILL NOT ADMIT THE WE ARE ANIMALS WITH A SPIRIT
PUT IN US BY JEHOVAH IN THE BEGINNING WHEN HE BREATHED INTO ADAM.
ANIMALS DIE AND WE DIE A PHYSICAL DEATH THE SAME AS ANIMALS.
Ge 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Ge 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
Ge 2:20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.