so you're making your own definition of a word?
have fun with that :wave2:
the definition i use is the one kmo gave me:
to earn by one's actions
Deserved always implies a sense of justice.
That's why the word undeserved exists.
You can't deserve something unjust.
Example: a man doesn't deserve to be scalded to death by prison guards for defecating on himself and dirtying his cell. His death was undeserved.
Deserved always implies a sense of justice.
That's why the word undeserved exists.
You can't deserve something unjust.
Example: a man doesn't deserve to be scalded to death by prison guards for defecating on himself and dirtying his cell. His death was undeserved.
I explained the meaning of the word "deserve" in a previous rape thread.
I explained the meaning of the word "deserve" in a previous rape thread. I find it baffling that you people are still debating this.
"Deserve" is said in many ways. Yes, deserve always implies a sense of justice, but "justice" itself can be used in different ways. We talk about such a thing as "poetic justice," for example, which is not really justice in the strict, primary sense, and "poetic justice" has related to it a correlate sense of "deserve," which is, again, not truly desert in the primary, strict sense.
Do you wish for me again to make an enumeration of the different senses of "deserve"?
yep
but nobody ever listens to you
I explained the meaning of the word "deserve" in a previous rape thread. I find it baffling that you people are still debating this.
"Deserve" is said in many ways. Yes, deserve always implies a sense of justice, but "justice" itself can be used in different ways. We talk about such a thing as "poetic justice," for example, which is not really justice in the strict, primary sense, and "poetic justice" has related to it a correlate sense of "deserve," which is, again, not truly desert in the primary, strict sense.
Do you wish for me again to make an enumeration of the different senses of "deserve"?
When you grow a heart you may speak.
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:listen: Bybee can see into the hearts of all of us. :shocked:
You don't know the definition of the word deserve? :shocked: Here it is from Merriam Webster:
de·served de·serv·ing
transitive verb
: to be worthy of : merit <deserves another chance>
intransitive verb
: to be worthy, fit, or suitable for some reward or requital <have become recognized as they deserve — T. S. Eliot>
Clearly the definition implies a sense of justice, as do all the synonyms without exception.
I just did! :banana:
:rotfl:
:listen: Bybee can see into the hearts of all of us. :shocked:
True.
Yes, deserve always implies a sense of justice
We talk about such a thing as "poetic justice," for example, which is not really justice in the strict, primary sense, and "poetic justice" has related to it a correlate sense of "deserve," which is, again, not truly desert in the primary, strict sense.
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/poetic-justice?q=poetic+justicepoetic justice: noun
The fact of experiencing a fitting or deserved retribution for one’s actions:
‘the noise was deafening and it was poetic justice when the amplifiers stalled just before the start’
Do you wish for me again to make an enumeration of the different senses of "deserve"?
Yes, I recognize the little god syndrome.
1 Samuel 16:7
7 But the Lord said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart.
At least we agree on this point.Furthermore, since we are still talking about this nonsense, I suppose I'll weigh in on whether or not women "deserve" to be raped in any of the senses that I have enumerated:
1. Rape is never deserved in the sense of 1 (what is due according to justice). Rape as such implies injustice.
2. Rape may be deserved in the sense of 2 (what is due according to poetic justice). Thus do we have a tendency to make jokes about prison rape, especially when it comes to criminals who have committed particularly heinous crimes.
3. Rape may be deserved in the sense of 3 (what is reasonably foreseeable as though by cause and effect). "You left your drink unattended at a fraternity party? What did you expect to happen, lady?"