Will Taiwan be destroyed by China while Biden remains silent?

marke

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Civilian collateral casualties are inevitable in war. When he proposes to bomb another country to hell, who will also pay the price? Civilians.
Leftist pansies do not want to take war to terrorists and despots lest good soldiers cause civilian casualties. Never mind the civilians are begging for good soldiers to come to bomb the murderous thugs into hell to put a stop to them murdering innocent women and children by the thousands.
 

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Civilian collateral casualties are inevitable in war. When he proposes to bomb another country to hell, who will also pay the price? Civilians.

You're mistaken.

What Marke proposed was, and I quote:

. . . despots who abuse and murder innocent women and children just because they can. Yes, I advocate bombing the murderous morons into hell.

That precludes the killing of innocent people, and only includes executing those who are guilty of holding an entire nation hostage.

And it certainly precludes "bombing another country to hell."
 

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Civilian collateral casualties are inevitable in war.

No one is saying they aren't.

And yet, again, as I pointed out earlier, America can and has made an effort to minimize innocent casualties.
 

annabenedetti

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That precludes the killing of innocent people, and only includes executing those who are guilty of holding an entire nation hostage.

And it certainly precludes "bombing another country to hell."

He can preclude all he wants, it's not possible to keep from "only executing those who are guilty."

It's. not. possible. Maybe look up how many civilians have been killed in Iraq for an idea.

To imagine we could 'bomb China to hell' without civilian deaths is ludicrous.

Or - American deaths.

What war with China could look like
Sept 2020
A Pentagon annual report on China released Tuesday noted the military capabilities that the United States and its allies might have to counter, should such a scenario occur.​
Among China’s assets is the world’s largest navy, with a battle force of 350 ships that includes 130 major surface combatants. By comparison, the U.S. Navy has 296 deployable ships. China’s ground-based missiles have a range of 500km range, compared to the 300-km range for U.S. ground-based missiles in theater.​
And if the United States does strike, it will face the world’s largest array of advanced long-range, surface-to-air systems, according to the report.​
. . . .​
A recent war game, one of many that have been conducted involving a Taiwan conflict, showed “staggering casualties” and, should China gain a foothold on the island, an “Iwo Jima”-like situation for the United States to overcome, according to a report by Real Clear Investigations.​
 

Idolater

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. . . the military capabilities that the United States and its allies might have to counter, should such a scenario occur....
Our allies would be key in any hot war with the Chinese and Russians (hopefully the Russians wouldn't ally with China but as far as I'm concerned that is a real possibility if not a probability). They have basically infinite numbers but between us and all our allies together so do we.

It's hard to imagine how such a war doesn't go nuclear though. But this problem does not appear to be going away since China has only gotten more belligerent over the years, and they are definitely building up armaments.
 

ok doser

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Our allies would be key in any hot war with the Chinese and Russians (hopefully the Russians wouldn't ally with China but as far as I'm concerned that is a real possibility if not a probability). They have basically infinite numbers but between us and all our allies together so do we.

It's hard to imagine how such a war doesn't go nuclear though. But this problem does not appear to be going away since China has only gotten more belligerent over the years, and they are definitely building up armaments.
China plays the long game, to a degree that we can't imagine.

They're still waiting to get even with us for the opium wars.

See: fentanyl
 

Idolater

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China plays the long game, to a degree that we can't imagine.

They're still waiting to get even with us for the opium wars.

See: fentanyl
What are you saying? Fentanyl comes here from Mexico. Are you saying Mexico is corrupted with Chinese graft?
 

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bomb China to hell

So far, you're the only one who has uttered these words. No one else has.

In other words, we, not you, are talking about taking out the leadership in China. Not the entire nation.
 

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Our allies would be key in any hot war with the Chinese and Russians (hopefully the Russians wouldn't ally with China but as far as I'm concerned that is a real possibility if not a probability). They have basically infinite numbers but between us and all our allies together so do we.

It's hard to imagine how such a war doesn't go nuclear though. But this problem does not appear to be going away since China has only gotten more belligerent over the years, and they are definitely building up armaments.

China plays the long game, to a degree that we can't imagine.

They're still waiting to get even with us for the opium wars.

See: fentanyl

Unfortunately, I don't think we're the military power we used to be, thanks to the perverts and spies.
 

ok doser

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That's me! Another bloodthirsty American who despises despots who abuse and murder innocent women and children just because they can. Yes, I advocate bombing the murderous morons into hell.
The bananahead has reeding comprenshun issues today, apparently. Must be her pullik skool ejumucashun.

To deconstruct what marke said, he "advocate(s) bombing the murderous morons into hell"

Which murderous morons?

"despots who abuse and murder innocent women and children"
 

annabenedetti

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So far, you're the only one who has uttered these words. No one else has.

In other words, we, not you, are talking about taking out the leadership in China. Not the entire nation.

Look, I, and a lot of other Americans, don't want a war with China. You can parse marke's words all you want, but he wants war and I'm not gonna argue semantics about how much war.
 

annabenedetti

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The bananahead has reeding comprenshun issues today, apparently. Must be her pullik skool ejumucashun.

To deconstruct what marke said, he "advocate(s) bombing the murderous morons into hell"

Which murderous morons?

"despots who abuse and murder innocent women and children"

Your mind is gone. What a shame.
 

marke

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He can preclude all he wants, it's not possible to keep from "only executing those who are guilty."

It's. not. possible. Maybe look up how many civilians have been killed in Iraq for an idea.
My brother told me that the people in Iraq told him that Iraqis loved American soldiers and thanked him for coming to deliver them from Saddam.
 

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Look, I, and a lot of other Americans, don't want a war with China. You can parse marke's words all you want, but he wants war and I'm not gonna argue semantics about how much war.

Which is better?:

Scenario 1: Allow China to take over the world through subversive means, and let them continue to oppress her people in ways such as only allowing 1 child per family, forced abortions, disappearing anyone who opposes the regime, and allowing communism, and thus, poverty, to spread.

Scenario 2: America and her allies step in and act, taking out the communist dictatorship leaders of China and liberate her people from their rule.
 
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ok doser

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Look, I, and a lot of other Americans, don't want a war with China.
And so you're willing to turn a blind eye to their imprisonment in re-education camps of a million uyghurs, and the systematic rape of uyghur women.

You're willing to allow 23.6 million ethnic Chinese in the democracy of Taiwan to be subjugated under communist rule.
 
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