Theology Club: Why Will No One in the Neo-MAD Camp Address John 3:16?

Jerry Shugart

Jerry Shugart

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Danoh said:
And "The Silence of God" is Cessasionist.

While, O'Hair, on the other hand, had believed that Divine Intervention is still in operation in some form.

Which of those two men is Neo, you buffoon.
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Please quote O'Hair saying that Divine Intervention is still in operation in some form. In what "form" is he speaking about?

And quote Anderson saying that no Divine Intervention is still in operation in some form.
 
Jerry Shugart

Jerry Shugart

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SaulToPaul said:
This scripture says that Cornelius and his house already knew the LORD Jesus before Peter was sent to him.

Acts 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all: )

Acts 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
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The verses which you quote is what Peter said to Cornelius. There is nothing that proves that Cornelius already knew those things, as you imagine.
 
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Danoh

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Jerry Shugart said:
Please quote O'Hair saying that Divine Intervention is still in operation in some form. In what "form" is he speaking about?

And quote Anderson saying that no Divine Intervention is still in operation in some form.
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If I am reading you right, and thus far I've batted a thousand, where reading you through your words is concerned; you are asserting that God still works outside of His Word.

"Say it ain't so..." - Little Mike
 
heir

heir

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Jerry Shugart said:
"The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all) How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree: Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly; Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead. And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead. To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins" (Acts 10:37-43).
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No gospel of Christ to be found!
 
heir

heir

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Jerry Shugart said:
And it was indeed the "good news" of Christ that Jesus is the Christ and believing that "good news" (gospel) brings salvation you deny that that the good news of Christ spoken of in this verse is the "gospel of Christ":
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That is NOT the gospel of Christ mentioned in Romans 1:16 KJV! You need to get the gospels straight! And when you do: 2 Timothy 2:15 KJV!
 
SaulToPaul 2

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Jerry Shugart said:
The verses which you quote is what Peter said to Cornelius. There is nothing that proves that Cornelius already knew those things, as you imagine.
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Acts 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all: )

Acts 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;


Peter just old Cornelius they already knew "that word", referring to the previous verse, "preaching peace by Jesus Christ".

Simple English.
 
Jerry Shugart

Jerry Shugart

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SaulToPaul said:
Acts 10:36 Peter just old Cornelius they already knew "that word", referring to the previous verse, "preaching peace by Jesus Christ".
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If Cornelius already knew the word then why was Peter sent to preach to Cornelius the word whereby he would be saved?:

"And he shewed us how he had seen an angel in his house, which stood and said unto him, Send men to Joppa, and call for Simon, whose surname is Peter; Who shall tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved. And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning" (Acts 11:13-14).​

Why was Peter sent to Cornelius to preach to him the word which would result in Cornelius' salvation if he already knew that word?
 
Jerry Shugart

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SaulToPaul said:
It is impossible for 1 John and Paul's letters to both be written to the Body.

Jerry has to do gymnastics and use smoke/mirrors to make that happen.
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Paul said that the following words were sent to all who in every place call on the name of the Lord Jesus:

"For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit" (1 Cor.12:13).​

Those words were addressed to every Jew and Gentile in every place:

"Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both their's and our's" (1 Cor.12:13).​

From Paul's words in these two verses we can know that all the Jews in every place are members of the Body of Christ.

Therefore, all the epistles, from Romans through Jude, were written by members of the Body and were addressed t those in the Body.

But you refuse to believe that.
 
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Grosnick Marowbe

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Pierac said:
Yet they both spoke the same language...? :cool:

Your letting traditions of men cloud your understanding... You fail to understand everyone does not have the same role in the kingdom! James had his role... Paul had his role... they did as they were commanded!


Paul said... Rom 11:25 For I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this mystery--so that you will not be wise in your own estimation--that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; and so all Israel will be saved; :thumb:


You appear to be uninformed of this mystery! :think:



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You and your ilk don't know how to "Rightly Divide" the "Written
Word of God." that's why you're confused. Read/study Romans
through Philemon.
 
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Grosnick Marowbe

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Danoh said:
From - Berean Bible Society - https://www.bereanbiblesociety.org -
Part 2: Gleanings From the Book of Acts silence of God
Posted By Pastor J. C. O'Hair On October 5, 1935 @ 11:30 am In 1935.10 - Bible Study For Bereans - October 1935.

The following from that document, is by J.C. O'Hair:



According to your fool notions, Jerry, one of those two men would have to fall under your Neo-Mad nonsense.

And "The Silence of God" is Cessasionist.

While, O'Hair, on the other hand, had believed that Divine Intervention is still in operation in some form.

Which of those two men is Neo, you buffoon.
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Good post
 
Jerry Shugart

Jerry Shugart

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heir said:
That is NOT the gospel of Christ mentioned in Romans 1:16 KJV! You need to get the gospels straight! And when you do: 2 Timothy 2:15 KJV!
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"For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek" (Ro.1:16).​

Which gospel that brings salvation was preached to "the Jews first"?

Since you consider yourself an expert on the various gospels then that question will be easy for you to answer.
 
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SaulToPaul 2

SaulToPaul 2

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Jerry Shugart said:
If Cornelius already knew the word then why was Peter sent to preach to Cornelius the word whereby he would be saved?:

"And he shewed us how he had seen an angel in his house, which stood and said unto him, Send men to Joppa, and call for Simon, whose surname is Peter; Who shall tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved. And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning" (Acts 11:13-14).​

Why was Peter sent to Cornelius to preach to him the word which would result in Cornelius' salvation if he already knew that word?
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Something to ask Luke, he wrote it.
Simple English.
 
SaulToPaul 2

SaulToPaul 2

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Jerry Shugart said:
Paul said that the following words were sent to all who in every place call on the name of the Lord Jesus:

"For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit" (1 Cor.12:13).​

Those words were addressed to every Jew and Gentile in every place:

"Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both their's and our's" (1 Cor.12:13).​

From Paul's words in these two verses we can know that all the Jews in every place are members of the Body of Christ.

Therefore, all the epistles, from Romans through Jude, were written by members of the Body and were addressed t those in the Body.

But you refuse to believe that.
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I believe them, in their context.
 
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