Why Israel of the middle east is not Gods people.

Danoh

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Ok, Danoh,

How about Jesus' word or teaching: do you also believe Jesus' word is just for the Jews and not for gentiles and our lord is Paul?

They do not say exactly that but that's what they are practically saying.

Where, pray tell; do you get the crazy idea that any so called Mad believes the Apostle Paul is our Lord?

Let me know, as I have never met one.

Matthew 5:14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Think how you will - that was spoken to "the lost sheep of the house of ISRAEL."

Just as this reminder to go and have an animal sacrifced unto the LORD applied to them...

Matthew 8:1 When he was come down from the mountain, great multitudes followed him. 8:2 And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean. 8:3 And Jesus put forth his hand, and touched him, saying, I will; be thou clean. And immediately his leprosy was cleansed. 8:4 And Jesus saith unto him, See thou tell no man; but go thy way, shew thyself to the priest, and offer the gift that Moses commanded, for a testimony unto them.

But don't believe me - read Leviticus 14's "law of the leper."
 

meshak

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Where, pray tell; do you get the crazy idea that any so called Mad believes the Apostle Paul is our Lord?

read my explanation of my comment. BTW, they say they follow Paul and they say they are Paul's followers. So you don't have to make excuse for them.

So are they not claiming to be Christians? Because Christians are supposed to be Jesus Christ's followers.
 

Danoh

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read my explanation of my comment. BTW, they say they follow Paul and they say they are Paul's followers. So you don't have to make excuse for them.

So are they not claiming to be Christians? Because Christians are supposed to be Jesus Christ's followers.

I am not making excuses for anyone.

You simply do not understand this issue.

The Apostle Paul is either the God given Apostle of the Gentiles, or he is not, Rom. 11:13.

John 13:20 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

Acts 26:15 And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest. 26:16 But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee; 26:17 Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee, 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

Ephesians 3:1 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles, 3:2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward: 3:3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, 3:4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) 3:5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; 3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel: 3:7 Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power. 3:8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ; 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: 3:10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God, 3:11 According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord: 3:12 In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him. 3:13 Wherefore I desire that ye faint not at my tribulations for you, which is your glory. 3:14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, 3:15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, 3:16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; 3:17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, 3:18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; 3:19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God. 3:20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us, 3:21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.

And last I checked - Apostle does not mean Lord.
 

meshak

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I am not making excuses for anyone.

You simply do not understand this issue.

I am simply trying to understand if you guys agreeing with each other about your faith in MADism.

They claim they are followers of Paul, not Jesus' followers.

So arn't they claiming they are not Christians since Christians are supposed to be Jesus Christ's followers?
 

Danoh

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I am simply trying to understand if you guys agreeing with each other about your faith in MADism.

They claim they are followers of Paul, not Jesus' followers.

So arn't they claiming they are not Christians since Christians are supposed to be Jesus Christ's followers?

Lol - you're making the same mistake that people make when they hear Uchinaaguchi and conclude they are hearing Nihongo :chuckle:
 

meshak

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Lol - you're making the same mistake that people make when they hear Uchinaaguchi and conclude they are hearing Nihongo :chuckle:

what mistake?

I am only explaining to you what the MADists here claiming. And I am not the only one observing like this.

Hey, where did you learn uchinaguchi?
 

beameup

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And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people
And he shall set up an ensign [flag] for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
- Isaiah 11:11a,12
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