Calvinism is imposed salvation.
According to your Satanic leader God forces some to believe and then damns the rest to hell.
Some God you got there.
Why I Don't Believe in Calvinism or Predestination
- Thread starter Robert Pate
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Calvinism is imposed salvation.
According to your Satanic leader God forces some to believe and then damns the rest to hell.
Some God you got there.
beloved57
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You don't believe that Christ obeyed the Law of God for them He lived and died for do you? That is why by His only one obedience they are made righteous Rom 5:19!
There are many, many, scriptures that say that Jesus died for the sins of the whole world, here are just a couple, 1 John 2:2, 1 John 4:14.
What good is your Bible if you don't believe it? Why don't you just throw it in the trash?
beloved57
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The world He redeemed, for them Christ died for He lived for, obeyed the Law for, have believed for! Now does the whole world without exception believe in Christ? Yes or No?
beloved57
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Since when did you believe or understand those verses?
Way before you!
beloved57
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I see no evidence of it, from him or you!
Dialogos
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Robert,
Here is your modus operandi.
1. Author a post that misrepresents Calvinism
2. Summarily condemn Calvinism and Calvinists based on that misrepresentation.
3. Receive clarifications, question, criticisms and sound arguments against your position.
4. Ignore them all.
5. When logical and scriptural arguments that refute your claims become too numerous to ignore, move on and create another thread that misrepresents Calvinism.
6. Rinse and repeat.
Here is your modus operandi.
1. Author a post that misrepresents Calvinism
2. Summarily condemn Calvinism and Calvinists based on that misrepresentation.
3. Receive clarifications, question, criticisms and sound arguments against your position.
4. Ignore them all.
5. When logical and scriptural arguments that refute your claims become too numerous to ignore, move on and create another thread that misrepresents Calvinism.
6. Rinse and repeat.
The apostle Paul and the Gospel of Jesus Christ refutes Calvinism.
Your to blind to see it.
He imposed manhood upon you
He made wheat to be wheat
sheep to be sheep
doves to be doves
But tares will always be tares
goats will always be goats
vipers are vipers still
You are trying to usurp God by insisting that tares and wheat are the same etc.
It is this crooked thinking which has filled the church with the world.
Yes his premise is false.
You have a warped, perverted view of God's holy, just, merciful, righteous nature.
The God that you worship is like the God that the Muslims worship, he does not exist. He exist only in your warped, perverted mind.
God is no respector of persons, he loves all of humanity. Not some of humanity. If you would believe the Bible you would know that.
"God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son" John 3:16.
beloved57
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You teach that God punishes the Righteous, which makes Him Unjust!
Do you have some eggs?
beloved57
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You teach God is Unjust !
Nanja
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You repeatedly open new threads on Calvinism because the Gospel Truths of TULIP,
which you know are supported by the scriptures, serve to continually obsess / haunt you !
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popsthebuilder
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Is predestination the same as preordained, or destined? If it is then I must conclude that it is a truth as all things are predestined in our life and experiences prior to our conception in my opinion. Thanks.
beloved57
Well-known member
Do you believe that people who are going to Hell, that God predestinated it prior to their conception?
popsthebuilder
New member
Beloved57,
That is a great question!
Going to hell or Heaven is the only thing that, technically is not predestined, as it is a result of the gift of our free will and henceforth great potential/ responsability. Thank you.
On a slightly different note; if there is a ballance of opposites that equates to infinite energy, as all is, then the extreme opposites of Heaven and hell are somewhat incomprehendable in there awe and force. Or I guess in the case of the negative; the lack there of.
Thanks.
That is a great question!
Going to hell or Heaven is the only thing that, technically is not predestined, as it is a result of the gift of our free will and henceforth great potential/ responsability. Thank you.
On a slightly different note; if there is a ballance of opposites that equates to infinite energy, as all is, then the extreme opposites of Heaven and hell are somewhat incomprehendable in there awe and force. Or I guess in the case of the negative; the lack there of.
Thanks.