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ffreeloader

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I trust the KJV and sense the Holy Spirit’s presence when I read and study it, and no I do not sense God’s presence when I have read and studied MV’s. It really isn’t so much about the translation as with which manu scripts they were translated from. I don’t trust the Greek that Westcott and Hort, who were both occultist, translated from the minority texts Sin/Vac. So since the Holy Spirit convicted me to stay with the KJV should I obey God or listen to men ?
Live by your conscience. Ignore all the background noise.

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marke

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I think the NKJV has it beat, though there are a few minor issues it has.
What error?
The NKJV omits 1 John 5:7 and other passages that should not be omitted from the Bible.
Say what you want about Wescott and Hort, their Greek New Testament they produced is one of the most accurate and
So what?
Corrupt how?
Corrupt how?
The three Greek textual families agree 98-99% of the time.

I recommend the book by Westcott and Hort contemporary, John Burgon, titled "The Revision Revised," an excellent rebuttal to Westcott and Hort's shoddy 1881 Revised Version.
Question: Can someone get saved by reading the Wescott-Hort Greek New Testament?
Yes, God can use bad Bible translations to inspire sinners to turn to God for salvation. However, He can also use donkeys or other means.
 

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The NKJV omits 1 John 5:7 and other passages that should not be omitted from the Bible.

For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.And there are three that bear witness on earth: the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree as one. - 1 John 5:7-8 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1John5:7-8&version=NKJV

I recommend the book by Westcott and Hort contemporary, John Burgon, titled "The Revision Revised," an excellent rebuttal to Westcott and Hort's shoddy 1881 Revised Version.

Yes, God can use bad Bible translations to inspire sinners to turn to God for salvation. However, He can also use donkeys or other means.

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For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.And there are three that bear witness on earth: the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree as one. - 1 John 5:7-8 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1John5:7-8&version=NKJV



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The NKJV translators made use of the Alexandrian texts that were rejected by the KJV translators, giving some credence to the Sinaiticus and the Vaticanus which were extremely corrupted. The footnote at their rendition of 1 John 5:7 renders the verse questionable, and that is the problem I have with their translation of that verse.

The devil casts doubt on God's word, and the NKJV is very subtle. Not only that but the NKJV has English renderings which blur the meanings of passages that are not blurred in the KJV. I believe the KJV is far superior to the NKJV.

1 John 5:7
The New King James Version

7 For there are three that bear witness 2in heaven: the Father, kthe Word, and the Holy Spirit; land these three are one.
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2NU, M omit the words from in heaven (v. 7) through on earth (v. 8). Only 4 or 5 very late mss. contain these words in Greek.
kJn 1:1
lJn 10:30
 

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NKJV 1Cor 1:18 says being saved (RC doctrine).. KJV … 1Cor 1:18 says are saved.


The NKJV translators made use of the Alexandrian texts that were rejected by the KJV translators, giving some credence to the Sinaiticus and the Vaticanus which were extremely corrupted. The footnote at their rendition of 1 John 5:7 renders the verse questionable, and that is the problem I have with their translation of that verse.

The devil casts doubt on God's word, and the NKJV is very subtle. Not only that but the NKJV has English renderings which blur the meanings of passages that are not blurred in the KJV. I believe the KJV is far superior to the NKJV.

1 John 5:7
The New King James Version

7 For there are three that bear witness 2in heaven: the Father, kthe Word, and the Holy Spirit; land these three are one.
Read more Share Copy
Hide footnotes
2NU, M omit the words from in heaven (v. 7) through on earth (v. 8). Only 4 or 5 very late mss. contain these words in Greek.
kJn 1:1
lJn 10:30

Let's move this discussion to a different thread. We're already off-topic as it is. Feel free to mention me in the new thread.
 
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