What Is Morality, and is it Absolute?

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You're accusing Abraham of blasphemy?

You think that Abraham thought that God was going to murder?

Because that's not what he said.

Stop thinking like a modern person. How would the rest of the ancient world have perceived God's actions? How God's actions have affected His reputation?
 

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You think that Abraham thought that God was going to murder?

Because that's not what he said.

Stop thinking like a modern person. How would the rest of the ancient world have perceived God's actions? How God's actions have affected His reputation?
Murder could also be defined as an unjust killing of a human. Abraham questioned whether that would have been right for God to do. @Right Divider said it was blasphemy to question whether God could murder, so it seems like Abraham is guilty of RD's blasphemy charge. I don't understand why your other questions, because they don't address the point where the conversation was.
 
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You're accusing Abraham of blasphemy?
No, I was accusing you of that in the post that I quoted.

Abraham never accuses God of murder. That seems to be an idea that you've invented in your mind.

Abraham attempted to "save the righteous" in Sodom. The problem is that there are none righteous, as demonstrated by scripture.

Rom 3:10-18 (AKJV/PCE)​
(3:10) As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: (3:11) There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. (3:12) They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. (3:13) Their throat [is] an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps [is] under their lips: (3:14) Whose mouth [is] full of cursing and bitterness: (3:15) Their feet [are] swift to shed blood: (3:16) Destruction and misery [are] in their ways: (3:17) And the way of peace have they not known: (3:18) There is no fear of God before their eyes.​

God, being the author of Life, has the right to take life at His will. That is NOT murder. Everyone, save the Lord Jesus Christ, deserves to die.
 

Derf

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No, I was accusing you of that in the post that I quoted.
Oh, you're right. I thought it was still @Nick M. Sorry to both of you for the mistake.
Abraham never accuses God of murder.
No, he didn't accuse God of murder, but he questioned whether God would be just killing the righteous with the wicked.
That seems to be an idea that you've invented in your mind.
Hardly, since you refer to it below.
Abraham attempted to "save the righteous" in Sodom. The problem is that there are none righteous, as demonstrated by scripture.

Rom 3:10-18 (AKJV/PCE)​
(3:10) As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: (3:11) There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. (3:12) They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. (3:13) Their throat [is] an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps [is] under their lips: (3:14) Whose mouth [is] full of cursing and bitterness: (3:15) Their feet [are] swift to shed blood: (3:16) Destruction and misery [are] in their ways: (3:17) And the way of peace have they not known: (3:18) There is no fear of God before their eyes.​

God, being the author of Life, has the right to take life at His will. That is NOT murder. Everyone, save the Lord Jesus Christ, deserves to die.
You believe that babies in the womb deserve to die??

But even if babies deserve to die, as you are now on record as saying, God's answer to Abraham was not, "there is none righteous, no not one," but His answer was that He would grant Abraham's request not to destroy the righteous with the wicked, either by not destroying the city if 10 righteous were found, or by taking the righteous out of the city, as happened, to save them from destruction.
 
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