'Western Wall' built long after Herod's death - 'Wailing @ the Wrong Wall'

[musterion]

Only pride and stubbornness and an absolutely certain war prevents the Temple from being built immediately,

 

[Nang]

I've heard that for years now.
What's the holdup?

Uh . . maybe you are waiting for an earthly fulfillment, of a spiritual building of Christ's church, happening right before your eyes . . . II Corinthians 6:11-18

No holdup in play, at all.

 

[Tambora]

Uh . . maybe you are waiting for an earthly fulfillment,

Yep.

of a spiritual building of Christ's church, happening right before your eyes . . . II Corinthians 6:11-18

Nope, not waiting for that.

No holdup in play, at all.

There is of the earthly temple.

 

[Nang]

There is of the earthly temple.

The earthly temple only prefigured the spiritual indwelling of the Holy Spirit sent by Christ to those with whom God will abide. II Corinthians 6:16 (cp Ezekiel 37:26)

Who has distracted you from the very depths of God's Truth?

 

[Tambora]

The earthly temple only prefigured the spiritual indwelling of the Holy Spirit sent by Christ to those with whom God will abide. II Corinthians 6:16 (cp Ezekiel 37:26)

Who has distracted you from the very depths of God's Truth?

The land is earthly.
The throne is earthly.
The temple is earthly.

Promised to the earthly Israel (not some other spiritual Israel).

 

[musterion]

Who has distracted you from the very depths of God's Truth?

Why are you dogging her over it?

If she's elect but not saved yet, she can't hear or understand yet. Not her fault.

If she's reprobate, she'll never hear nor understand. Still not her fault.

Either way, who are you, o woman, to be disputing the sovereign decree?

 

[beameup]

Revelation 11:1-2a
And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the TEMPLE of GOD, and the ALTAR, and them that worship therein, but the court which is without the TEMPLE leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles

 

[Nang]

The land is earthly.
The throne is earthly.
The temple is earthly.

Promised to the earthly Israel (not some other spiritual Israel).

All you speak of is past tense. The future inheritance of promised land and "temple" is spiritual . . . why? Because all this earth and material things known, are to be destroyed with fire.

The kingdom promised is forever and ever ... so it cannot be of or found on this present earth, that will burn to its end.

 

[Nang]

Why are you dogging her over it?

If she's elect but not saved yet, she can't hear or understand yet. Not her fault.

If she's reprobate, she'll never hear nor understand. Still not her fault.

Either way, who are you, o woman, to be disputing the sovereign decree?

I do not know the sovereign decree regarding Tambora's fate. Do you?

There is nothing wrong with my testifying my beliefs of a promised, spiritual new heavens and new earth to her, for it is prophesied in God's Word.

So get lost . . . and let us women converse freely without your unsolicited interference.

 

[Tambora]

All you speak of is past tense.

How do get 'past tense' out of "is".
That's present tense.

The future inheritance of promised land and "temple" is spiritual

Nope.
Specific earthly landmarks were stated.
Specific earthly land that Abe walked upon with his own feet.
The same land the fathers lived in.

. . . why? Because all this earth and material things known, are to be destroyed with fire.

Not till after the earthly kingdom of Israel is restored as promised to them.

The kingdom promised is forever and ever

Yep.

... so it cannot be of or found on this present earth, that will burn to its end.

It will happen before the burn.

 

[Tambora]

I do not know the sovereign decree regarding Tambora's fate. Do you?

I do.
Done deal.

 

[Nang]

It will happen before the burn.

The earthly kingdom promised to Israel has already existed and been fulfilled . .

Which prefigures the promise of the everlasting kingdom that is heavenly.

The kingdom promised to exist forever and ever, cannot be of this earth, that is condemned, temporal, and will be destroyed by fire.

God does not lie . . . His Kingdom is an everlasting Kingdom.

 

[Nang]

I do.
Done deal.

At least you recognize your fate is determined by God; else you could not know, could you?

 

[Nang]

It will happen before the burn.

Then it will not be an everlasting kingdom, will it? It will still burn in the end.

 

[Tambora]

The earthly kingdom promised to Israel has already existed and been fulfilled . .

Not their restoration of the two split nations being reunited again.

Which prefigures the promise of the everlasting kingdom that is heavenly.

The heavenly was already there.
The earthly temple was a pattern of the heavenly that already existed.

The kingdom promised to exist forever and ever, cannot be of this earth, that is condemned, temporal, and will be destroyed by fire.

There's plenty of time for GOD to fulfill his promise of the two split nations of Israel to be united again in the same land as their fathers.

God does not lie . . . His Kingdom is an everlasting Kingdom.

Yep.

 

[Nang]

There's plenty of time for GOD to fulfill his promise of the two split nations of Israel to be united again in the same land as their fathers.

This is not the Gospel of Jesus Christ and His heavenly, everlasting Kingdom.

It is a distraction to the past, that should not be preached or promised, for it is not the message of Christ crucified, that alone can save souls.

Satan would love to continue this wicked distraction from the true Gospel of everlasting life found only by faith in Jesus Christ, by the means of religious types lying to the Jews, and telling them that their promised land still exists in the middle East, rather than belief in the Incarnate/Resurrected Son of God.

 

[jamie]

Interesting, but the Christian Men's Vest Club didn't address (in that clip) why all this time the Jews couldn't figure out where their own Temple went, and need a Gentile to point it out to them.

The Jews in Jerusalem were expelled from Jerusalem for some time and lost its location. The Temple and its foundation were gone.

 

[Tambora]

This is not the Gospel of Jesus Christ and His heavenly, everlasting Kingdom.

Right.
It's the promises of GOD to Israel, not the BOC.

It is a distraction to the past, that should not be preached or promised, for it is not the message of Christ crucified, that alone can save souls.

Not talking about eternal life.
Talking about the restoration of the earthly kingdom of Israel.

Satan would love to continue this wicked distraction from the true Gospel of everlasting life found only by faith in Jesus Christ, by the means of religious types lying to the Jews, and telling them that their promised land still exists in the middle East, rather than belief in the Incarnate/Resurrected Son of God.

The religious types lying to the Jews are the ones that say GOD will not keep His promises to them as stated in scripture.

 

[chair]

The Roman Antonia Fortress housed 6,000 troops plus about 4,000 support staff.
It occupied the entirety of "Haram al Sharif". The Temple was located in the
City of David, which is SOUTH of "Haram al Sharif". The "mis-identification"
of the so-called "Temple Mount" as the location of the Temple, has to be the
greatest archeological blunder of all history.
Only extreme stubbornness and pride prevents the acknowledgement of this critical error.

This is such a silly theory that I don't even know where to start. Have you been to Jerusalem? A 30 minutes tour would cure you of this idea.
Also- what is the point of this theory? Does it serve some ideological or theological purpose?

 

[chair]

Only pride and stubbornness prevents the Temple from being built immediately, as the City of David is wholly under Israeli control. The Temple Institute has already trained the Kohanim, produced their garments, produced all the implements of the Temple/Tabernacle, etc.

Did you ever hear of "Reality"? The world is not simple. I do, however, appreciate your willingness to sacrifice my blood in hopes of fulfilling your odd theology!