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ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
you've been told repeatedly that this mischaracterization of what I shared about my relationship with my family is inaccurate and deceptive
after having been told this, your determination to continue with the misrepresentation can only be characterized as a deliberate lie
George Affleck
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You did such a poor job of answering this one, I will give you another chance.
If adultery was a capital crime in the west, no one would get married by choice. They would opt for non-contractual relationships.
There would be hardly anyone committing the crime of adultery because a person's desire to live usually overrides their willingness to commit a crime where they will most likely lose their life.
Huh? How do you arrive at THAT conclusion? :dunce:
Why does there need to be a contract (other than that both persons agree to love one another) in a marriage? It's a marriage, not a business deal.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
I didn't answer it at all, because it's unsupported opinion
It's easily disproved by examining history - when adultery was dealt with harshly in the past, it didn't lead to a de-stabilization of marriage as an institution
By two or three witnesses... Duh.
You guys are getting way over your skis on this one.
Spending an afternoon in a motel room isn't a crime.
Sneaking out after dark isn't a crime.
Having sex with someone else's spouse is...
A man should not (no, not a law, just as a general rule) sleep in the same room as a woman if either of them are married (obviously, this excludes two people married to each other).
Text messages, eyewitnesses saying they're friendly toward each other often, emails, photos, security camera footage, these are just a few examples of the kinds of witnesses that point to an adulterous relationship.
glorydaz
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Ah, a "caught in the act" scenario?
The witness would be the husband, I suppose? The testimony of a biased witness?
He could be lying because he wants the house and the kids. :think:
Which is why the requirement is "two or three witnesses", and not "one witness."
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
The best kind:thumb:
Or the wife, depending
Or the kids, or the neighbors, or the mailman, etc
Could be :idunno:
Isn't that the case with virtually any reported crime?
He (or she) sure could
But again, that's no different from any other reported crime
glorydaz
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Ah, two or three witnesses? They all happened upon an act of adultery?
Text messages? Saying they're too "friendly"? None of those things prove an adulterous relationship is going on. Guilt is beyond a reasonable doubt, remember? It is not an easy crime to prove....between two consenting adults and all.
The Bible's standard is two or three "witnesses", not two or three "eyewitnesses".
That is the standard to use. Not "guilt beyond a reasonable doubt."
glorydaz
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How is that going to happen? A hidden camera? From every possible angle?
glorydaz
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Acting too friendly is not a crime.
If you want to go by Biblical standards, you should be put to death if you're caught looking at a Playboy.
glorydaz
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Report away. It ain't going to happen.
Firstly, if it was a crime, people would merely be careful. They wouldn't do it where they could be caught, but they'd still do it.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
What, you think evidence has to come from the vicinity of the act itself?
Never said it was.
I said it was EVIDENCE, a WITNESS, that the person is committing adultery, not a crime in and of itself. Nor is it proof of it either.
Flirting with someone else who is married and/or while you yourself are married is wrong, and is a good indication that there may be sexual relations going on, or that it is leading to a sexual relationship.
Um, no, because lust is not a crime. It IS a sin, but it is NOT a crime.