toldailytopic: Who was Jesus?

[Silent Hunter]

For those confused, the topic was "who was Jesus"

He was an apocalyptic "prophet" who many came to believe, after he died, was a deity. No evidence yet of his coming back from being dead . . . except unconfirmed rumors.

not what do you think about other peoples answers.

What? You're not here to discuss? Or are you here to throw random darts at everyone?

did anyone read the OP?

See above.

does anyone here know the truth needs no defense? it will set you free tho, John 8:32.

. . . or so says an anonymous writer from long ago . . . :sigh:.

 

[jeremysdemo]

does anyone here know the truth needs no defense? it will set you free tho, John 8:32.

says some anonymous writer from long ago...

you won't know unless you try it, John 8:31-32, Matthew 7:24.

otherwise you are just speculating,

if they are true they will bring Spirit and life, John 6:63, if not you loose nothing but time that was being wasted anyway.

keep shinin

jerm

 

[Bright Raven]

What is an IMAGE?

He is God's first creation. Col. 1. First born of ALL creatures.

You are reading into the text in Colossians. It says He is the firstborn over all creation (a place of position). Where does it say He is created? It says He created all things. The Creator can not be part of the creation.

 

[serpentdove]

so easy to stir the pot. thanx for playing serpentdove...

A few housekeeping items:

As a reminder, instant e-mail notification is inop. Some members (e.g. Jeremysdemo, Barbie, etc. Eph 4:14) do not provide links to the member's comments that they are responding to. If you'd like a response to your post (and sometimes they don't :idunno, please link to the original post.

 

[Silent Hunter]

you won't know unless you try it, John 8:31-32, Matthew 7:24.

Egoists like to pretend they are more than they are . . .

otherwise you are just speculating,

. . . no less so than the "believers" out there who spend most of their time :drum:.

if they are true they will bring Spirit and life, John 6:63, if not you loose nothing but time that was being wasted anyway.

. . . yeah . . . kind of like Schindler's List.

 

[serpentdove]

"He was an apocalyptic "prophet"..."

Jesus came to die for the sins of the world (Ro 5:17-19, Isa 25:1 NIV).

 

[jeremysdemo]

truth needs no defense? it will set you free tho, John 8:32.

says some anonymous writer from long ago...

you won't know unless you try it, John 8:31-32, Matthew 7:24.

Egoists like to pretend they are more than they are . . .

only those who have tried can honestly say if He spoke truth or not.

keep shinin

jerm

 

[Silent Hunter]

Jesus came to die for the sins of the world (Ro 5:17-19, Isa 25:1 NIV).

. . . so says one of the "believers" out there who spends most of his time :drum:.

:sigh:

:yawn:

 

[Wile E. Coyote]

:yawn:

No one is twisting your arm to participate.

 

[Silent Hunter]

only those who have tried can honestly say if He spoke truth or not.

. . . said the speculating christian . . .

. . . no evidence . . . but LOTS of speculation.

 

[Silent Hunter]

No one is twisting your arm to participate.

Well, it is an OPEN forum.

Obviously, you only want to see post that agree with your particular theology.

Dissension is allowed . . . like it or not.

 

[Wile E. Coyote]

Well, it is an OPEN forum.

Obviously, you only want to see post that agree with your particular theology.

Dissension is allowed . . . like it or not.

You posted the yawn emoticon indicating that you are bored with the discussion. So I said, "No one is twisting your arm to participate."

 

[Silent Hunter]

You posted the yawn emoticon indicating that you are bored with the discussion. So I said, "No one is twisting your arm to participate."

Ah, yes . . . a christian demonstrating his most basic talent . . . the ability to know what others are thinking.

Perhaps, I'm bored with seeing the same tired arguments and wish you all would come up with something original.

Quotes from your book of myth are white noise in ANY discussion with the unbelieving.

 

[serpentdove]

. . . so says one of the "believers" out there who spends most of his time :drum:

:yawn: I do not play the drums (Jn 3:19-21). lain:

 

[sky.]

Black noise. . . .

:cheers:

Is that like grunge music?

 

[jeremysdemo]

only those who have tried can honestly say if He spoke truth or not.

. . . said the speculating christian . . .

. . . no evidence . . . but LOTS of speculation.

I told you were to go to find the evidence, it's called QED,

don't piss in my cornflakes because you are too lazy to try.

keep shinin

jerm

 

[Dena]

We don't really know. We have some stories about a specific person, but the stories are really intended more to teach us about a theological ideal rather than to define a person for us.

Something like this. I would imagine there was a man who existed at the time who was inspiration for later Christians. But was he the Jesus people love and worship today? No. That guy is a myth.

 

[godrulz]

If he does not change modes, why do you believe he could or would have sinned?

SD: “ Could he have sinned?
Godrulz: “I believe He could have, but did not…” link

Our God is holy (Ps 99:9, Is 5:16). He does not change (Mal 3:6).

What meaning do you pour into "God-Man"? :freak: Explain God's nature (Jn 1:1, Heb 4:15). :smokie:

We are sinners by birth and by practice (Ps 51:5). Jesus was not/is not. Christ died for the ungodly (Ro 5:6).

See:

Jesus Is God's Answer to Man's Disability by Adrian Rogers

Godrulz

The doctrine of God/Christology, we agree on. The debate about hamartiology/impeccability of Christ, we disagree about. The former is salvific, the latter is not.

 

[godrulz]

. . . most of you have elevate a man to the level of deity . . . that's . . . :kookoo:

Yes, Jesus claimed to be God. He is either a liar, lunatic if He is not. Those who think He is a legend/myth are the crazy ones.

The Deity of Christ and His resurrection is what makes Christianity true and different from every other worldview.

Like atheists and Pharisees you reject this truth, but it does not make it untrue.

You will bow your knee before King Jesus someday, either as his love servant or as a mocker who will depart forever from His presence. Ball is in your court. He did everything He could to save us, but we must receive or reject it (Jn. 3:16; Jn. 3:36). If you make your bed and lie in it, don't blame God in the end.:cheers:

 

[Psalmist]

Your point?

. . . most of you have elevate a man to the level of deity . . . that's . . . :kookoo:

And what do you have?

Me, I'd rather believe what I believe and be wrong, than not to believe it and find out it is right. ​