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Jesus does have a ministry on earth at this time. It is run by His Spirit and it is not physically manifested as a church or ministry structure. It is not seen and it is therefore eternal. Those that are seen (physically detectable) are temporal. Those are not eternal and they are not relevant at this time because since some 2000 years ago, the lord is the Spirit of Jesus.

This might help:

This was posted by Jason0047:

" . . . All thru the Bible we see repentance and turning away from evil as a necessary thing..."

This was a (i.e. my) response to Jason0047:

Fact is all manner of sin may be forgiven except one. Therefore one can possibly repent all sin except one. There is this one sin that is not at all forgivable. This sin is a sure one way ticket to hell.

This sin is denial of the Spirit of Jesus. Denial of the Spirit of Jesus is blasphemy of the Spirit.

Jesus came among humans in two presentations. Jesus came first in a physical human body.

After Jesus was crucified and he rose to heaven, He returned in His Spirit which was regenerated by God after He was crucified and rose to heaven.

Then God sent Jesus back in His Spirit. God sent the Spirit of Jesus into the hearts of those under the law so that they might become adopted children of God.

Then God through Jesus through Paul declared that: Now, the lord is that Spirit (of Jesus) and where this Spirit is there is liberty.

In this regenerated state in His Spirit Jesus is eternal. He will be with us for ever. Jesus in a human physical body was temporal. He is no more.

The instruction is clear, "now the lord is that Spirit (of Jesus)", not the physical Jesus.

Now there exist on earth some people (the chosen few) who are given by God to know Truth and they have discerned and embraced the Spirit of Jesus within their own heart or spirit and they are also led into all their works by this Spirit. These chosen few do not get sin even when they transgress the Ten Commandments. They are the only Christians on earth. Repentance of sin is not at all applicable to these few people. These few people are the body of Christ. They are the members of Jesus' 'not seen' church on earth.

However others who transgress the Ten Commandments accrue sin and their sins might be forgiven, probably through repentance. However for these people there is one sin that is not at all forgivable.

They are the ones who speak of and look forward to, the second coming of Jesus in a physical body. This is a pie in the sky dream because Jesus has long returned the second time in His Spirit which is also called the Spirit of Truth.

This is how they accrue that specific sin for which there is no forgiveness:

Every time they speaks of and/or look forward to, the second coming of Jesus in a human physical body they blaspheme the Spirit of Jesus. This simple act is blasphemy of the Spirit. This is denial of the Spirit of Jesus, which is now the lord on earth.

Fact is Jesus returned right after He was crucified and rose to heaven. He return in His eternal presentation. He returned in His Spirit without a physical body.

Paul discerned Jesus in his second coming. Jesus came this second time in His Spirit and He came to stay in this presentation (in His Spirit) for ever and ever as Lord of humans.

The point is have you achieve communion with Jesus in this second coming. Those have not cannot be Christians.

Christians are the chosen few who can and do discern the Spirit of Jesus within their own individual hearts or spirits and are led into all their works by precisely what this Spirit of Jesus has in mind for each of them to pray for, say and do as discerned within their own individual hearts or spirits.

No one else are Christians. No one else is saved and chosen. No one else are in Jesus' Christian church. Jesus established another church. This other church is not His Christian church. This other Church is not for the chosen few. It is is for the great masses of people who are simply called but not yet chosen. They are Christian aspirants. They are simply under management under a schoolmaster until they are chosen to be under Jesus direct guidance through His Spirit, i.e. until they are chosen to be Christians. The one sin that these people will not be forgiven for committing is: the denial that Jesus has a church and following under the direct guidance of His Spirit as discerned within the hearts of those followers and that these people have God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law and not get sin.

Are you one of these who are the chosen few, Or are you one of those who are misled and therefore err and are not chosen. Are you one of those who are speaking about and looking forward for the second coming of Jesus in a physical body. These are the very great majority of those who are called to what passes for Christianity. They err because they do not get or know Truth and they are not chosen. They do not make it. Are you among this great masses of people who are erroneously called Christians and number in the billions?​
 

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In all seriousness I think most Christians wouldn't like what he had to say. (They don't seem to care for much of what he said as it is.)
 

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He'd first feed the hungry all over the world, then send us out, two-by-two, first to the cancer treatment centers, hospitals and clinics and then insane asylums.
 

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In all seriousness I think most Christians wouldn't like what he had to say. (They don't seem to care for much of what he said as it is.)
Nothing much has changed in the hearts of mankind. He would be labeled a "heretic" and an "anti-Christ" and although the self-righteous religious zealots couldn't have him killed this time, they'd murder him in their hearts and minds, for sure.

"Love your enemies"? Not hardly!
 

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Nothing much has changed in the hearts of mankind. He would be labeled a "heretic" and an "anti-Christ" and although the self-righteous religious zealots couldn't have him killed this time, they'd murder him in their hearts and minds, for sure.

"Love your enemies"? Not hardly!

I suppose that is why He must come again to separate the living from the dead?
 

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If Jesus had His ministry now in modern times, what would the mainstream Church think of His approach?




They'd tell Him to put down the whip and be more like (the modern version of) Jesus.
 

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The TheologyOnline.com TOPIC OF THE DAY for April 24th, 2013 05:00 AM


toldailytopic: If Jesus had His ministry now in modern times, what would the mainstream Church think of His approach?


Let's see:

A. They would say he's mean, spiteful and unloving even though He reached out to sinners throughout His ministry.

Matthew 23:33 - Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

B. They would say he's a 'prude' that wants the spoil the natural 'fun' that people want to have.

Matthew 5:27-29 -
27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

C. They would claim He has a bad temper.

Matthew 21:12-14 -
12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,
13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
14 And the blind and the lame came to him in the temple; and he healed them.

And the media would completely ignore or hide what He just did after He drove out the shysters.
 
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