genuineoriginal
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Wasn't that a Michael Jackson song?
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Wasn't that a Michael Jackson song?
Psalm 122:1
I was glad when they said unto me, Let us go into the house of the LORD.
genuineoriginal
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That is referring to the Temple on Mount Zion in Jerusalem, the place YHVH said He would place His name.
SovereigntyIsGods
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:up: No steepled assembly building in that passage.
genuineoriginal
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That was the group with the black singer named Michael Jackson (not to be confused with the white singer of the same name that married Elvis Presley's daughter).
How they keep telling their followers to love this one and love that one and love every one. When in fact love has its own mind. And love's urgings arise and are sustained naturally and spontaneously (out of its own volition) within our individual hearts, for very specific people things and circumstances in God's creation.
How they say that agape love last for ever, when, within our hearts, love arises, is sustained for a while and then fall off quite on it own.
How they bless marriages and then say God has put them together and no man can put them asunder . . . then as early as months later, man do put them asunder.
How they say that agape love last for ever, when, within our hearts, love arises, is sustained for a while and then fall off quite on it own.
How they bless marriages and then say God has put them together and no man can put them asunder . . . then as early as months later, man do put them asunder.
Buzzword
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Babies.
Seriously, I understand you have a small child in your lap (especially in our church), but if you can't keep the kid quiet, TAKE HIM OUTSIDE.
Cell phones ringing.
Really? We can't disconnect from the grid for a few hours a week to connect to God and other people IN PERSON?
Pastors who preach like they've been asleep up until it's "their time" to stand up.
I've had many a service RUINED because the music and testimonies were letting God's presence fill the room, and when the pastor got up he just kicked Him out.
Conversely, I LOVE (because this whole thread has been nothing but complaining) that my pastor is able to join the rest of us in being filled with the presence of God, to the point that on several occasions he's just gotten up and said "You know, if I add anything at this point, I'll just ruin what God has been doing this morning."
Pressure to conform.
Our church is a "young parents" church.
It seems like there's at least three baby dedications every month.
My wife and I (being college students) are WAITING to have children, and for some reason we cannot get this concept into the heads of the hordes of grandmas who surround us every Sunday during "pass the peace" (i.e. handshake-good-morning-God-bless-you time) to ask my large-framed wife when the baby's due.
Tracts.
So many churches, especially in their youth programs, have fallen into the consumerist idea of short-n-sweet advertising.
As if a completely life- and nature-changing experience and transformation could EVER be summed up into some kind of 4-step program.
That's all I can think of at the moment...
Seriously, I understand you have a small child in your lap (especially in our church), but if you can't keep the kid quiet, TAKE HIM OUTSIDE.
Cell phones ringing.
Really? We can't disconnect from the grid for a few hours a week to connect to God and other people IN PERSON?
Pastors who preach like they've been asleep up until it's "their time" to stand up.
I've had many a service RUINED because the music and testimonies were letting God's presence fill the room, and when the pastor got up he just kicked Him out.
Conversely, I LOVE (because this whole thread has been nothing but complaining) that my pastor is able to join the rest of us in being filled with the presence of God, to the point that on several occasions he's just gotten up and said "You know, if I add anything at this point, I'll just ruin what God has been doing this morning."
Pressure to conform.
Our church is a "young parents" church.
It seems like there's at least three baby dedications every month.
My wife and I (being college students) are WAITING to have children, and for some reason we cannot get this concept into the heads of the hordes of grandmas who surround us every Sunday during "pass the peace" (i.e. handshake-good-morning-God-bless-you time) to ask my large-framed wife when the baby's due.
Tracts.
So many churches, especially in their youth programs, have fallen into the consumerist idea of short-n-sweet advertising.
As if a completely life- and nature-changing experience and transformation could EVER be summed up into some kind of 4-step program.
That's all I can think of at the moment...
mercies?
Yes, I do agree, shaky rather than holy is not for me.
Jimmy Swaggart anyone?:chew:
"Give me that old time religion, it was good enough for David, it's good enough for me"
All the hymns which distract from the Christian gospel
Too many hymns
Clappy happy, hand raising, emotional release religion, with the band and all.
I like a good expository sermon and fellowship!
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A preacher/pastor who says to their congregation, "You people...." I guess the preacher/pastor forgot what Isaiah said, "For all we...."
When the regular members of the congregation forget to leave a couple back rows of seating for the visitors.
When the pastor sends a committee of two or three to do hospital and nursing home visitation, saying that he doesn't have time. To me that's just wrong.
As for a weeping preacher/pastor, I have wept momentarily at times, and it is for the love I for Jesus and the Gospel, and those that I serve, the ill and infirm with broken bodies; those that we serve have told Mrs Psalmist that your husband has a heart of compassion and love for us and Jesus. If I didn't have the compassion and love for those I serve, I would be finished with the chaplaincy in a heartbeat.
When the regular members of the congregation forget to leave a couple back rows of seating for the visitors.
When the pastor sends a committee of two or three to do hospital and nursing home visitation, saying that he doesn't have time. To me that's just wrong.
As for a weeping preacher/pastor, I have wept momentarily at times, and it is for the love I for Jesus and the Gospel, and those that I serve, the ill and infirm with broken bodies; those that we serve have told Mrs Psalmist that your husband has a heart of compassion and love for us and Jesus. If I didn't have the compassion and love for those I serve, I would be finished with the chaplaincy in a heartbeat.
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Thunder's Muse
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I don't attend church and haven't done for many years, so I don't have any current pet peeves. However, from what I remember:
Duty before people - When I was younger, I attended the Salvation Army. It was all about Duty and being seen to fulfill your obligations. eg: when my parents finally divorced, I took a Sunday off because it upset me. The following Sunday, I received a lecture about missing Church...then was asked how everyone else was coping with the Divorce.
Speaking in Tounges - When I was about 15 or so, a bunch of us were locked in a back room, to pray until we spoke in tounges.
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Just Pray about it - That's pretty much all I got told when I remembered being sexually abused. Pray about it. Then when I sank into depression, I was 'dropped' by my Christian friends because I was now a 'sinner'.
Judgement rather than compassion - This one was the final straw for me and the reason I will never join a Church again. Looking for God during my self destructive days, I began attending a friends Church. An old boyfriend, who was now married occasioned the Church with his wife. One evening, my ex told me he still had feelings for me. Seeing this as a problem, I went to a Church elder, who was also (I thought) a friend. A few days later, the Head Pastor of the Church rang me and told me I was no longer welcome and to never return.
A bit of a vent, I know...but Church is still a very big sore point for me.
Duty before people - When I was younger, I attended the Salvation Army. It was all about Duty and being seen to fulfill your obligations. eg: when my parents finally divorced, I took a Sunday off because it upset me. The following Sunday, I received a lecture about missing Church...then was asked how everyone else was coping with the Divorce.
Speaking in Tounges - When I was about 15 or so, a bunch of us were locked in a back room, to pray until we spoke in tounges.
lain:Just Pray about it - That's pretty much all I got told when I remembered being sexually abused. Pray about it. Then when I sank into depression, I was 'dropped' by my Christian friends because I was now a 'sinner'.
Judgement rather than compassion - This one was the final straw for me and the reason I will never join a Church again. Looking for God during my self destructive days, I began attending a friends Church. An old boyfriend, who was now married occasioned the Church with his wife. One evening, my ex told me he still had feelings for me. Seeing this as a problem, I went to a Church elder, who was also (I thought) a friend. A few days later, the Head Pastor of the Church rang me and told me I was no longer welcome and to never return.
A bit of a vent, I know...but Church is still a very big sore point for me.
Samstarrett
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God preserve us. My sincerest sympathies. I can't believe Christians do that to each other.
Speaking in Tounges - When I was about 15 or so, a bunch of us were locked in a back room, to pray until we spoke in tounges.
:noway: Supra.
Again, I am horrified.
:doh: God preserve us.
I don't blame you, after experiences like that. I hope my commiseration didn't come off sarcastic. I get the feeling it might be taken that way, but I assure you I am quite sincere.
Peace,
Sam
My pet peeves--I have a lot of them because, for the most part, we have an emasculated Church today.
1. Tongues being a 'requirement' for being saved.
2. 'Revivals' that go into the wee hours of the morning.
3. 'Prophets' that don't know you from Adam that come up to you and say there is sin in your life, but won't tell you exactly what it is.:kookoo:
4. Pastors that preach from the pulpit tolerance for homosexuality.
5. Preachers that don't know their bible. Yes I had one that preached that Isaac wrestled with the Angel of the Lord and injured his hip!
6. Churches that require emotionalism as a sign of maturity.
7. Masons allowed as Elders and Deacons.
8. The new 'Hymns' that are all fluff and no substance.
9. Syrupy diabetic Christian art. (Teddy bears, Bunnies, Flowers, Frogs etc)
10. Loud sermons on the evils of jay walking. Sermons that are all fluff.
11. Female preachers.
1. Tongues being a 'requirement' for being saved.
2. 'Revivals' that go into the wee hours of the morning.
3. 'Prophets' that don't know you from Adam that come up to you and say there is sin in your life, but won't tell you exactly what it is.:kookoo:
4. Pastors that preach from the pulpit tolerance for homosexuality.
5. Preachers that don't know their bible. Yes I had one that preached that Isaac wrestled with the Angel of the Lord and injured his hip!
6. Churches that require emotionalism as a sign of maturity.
7. Masons allowed as Elders and Deacons.
8. The new 'Hymns' that are all fluff and no substance.
9. Syrupy diabetic Christian art. (Teddy bears, Bunnies, Flowers, Frogs etc)
10. Loud sermons on the evils of jay walking. Sermons that are all fluff.
11. Female preachers.
Tico
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Singing doctrinally incorrect songs--"Take not your Holy Spirit from me."
Some one gets up and says, "This is the day that the Lord has made."
The worship guy/gal prays and includes a phrase in his prayer that mysteriously finds itself in the next song.
Praying in a group about a tough situation and some one binds Satan while everyone else sits there envious that they didn't say it first.
Some one gets up and says, "This is the day that the Lord has made."
The worship guy/gal prays and includes a phrase in his prayer that mysteriously finds itself in the next song.
Praying in a group about a tough situation and some one binds Satan while everyone else sits there envious that they didn't say it first.
Samstarrett
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Tico
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Isn't that in the Bible?
Yep. So is offering sacrifices to receive the forgiveness of sins.
Samstarrett
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Point taken. So when did this one change?
BTW, I'm not disagreeing or arguing with your view atm, merely trying to understand it.
Tico
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No problem. It changed by the time the following was written:
Eph. 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
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