The Vicarious Life and Death of Christ for the Believer
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The Vicarious Life and Death of Christ for the Believer
The life and death of Christ.
When Jesus walked the earth he says to repent of sins (Luke 13:5); Jesus says if you obey my teachings you will be saved (Matthew 6:14, Matthew 6:15, John 8:31, John 13:17, John 15:10, John 15:14).
In addition, the disciples after having received the Holy Spirit, they CONTINUED to preach that the people should believe AND REPENT of their sins and call on Jesus' name (Acts 2:38, Acts 5:31, Luke 24:47, Acts 3:19,) and, even PAUL HIMSELF PREACHED REPENT of SINS (Acts 17:30; Acts 20:21, Acts 26:20, 2 Corinthians 12:21 ).
When Jesus died, rose again, and ascended to heaven, he taught to obey and repent of sins, Revelation 3:3, Revelation 14:12, Revelation 2:5, Revelation 3:19, Revelation 9:20,21,Revelation 16:10, 11.
There it is there.
Jesus taught repent of sins while he lived on earth; and he taught repent of sins after he died and ascended into heaven.
The life and death of Christ.
When Jesus walked the earth he says to repent of sins (Luke 13:5); Jesus says if you obey my teachings you will be saved (Matthew 6:14, Matthew 6:15, John 8:31, John 13:17, John 15:10, John 15:14).
In addition, the disciples after having received the Holy Spirit, they CONTINUED to preach that the people should believe AND REPENT of their sins and call on Jesus' name (Acts 2:38, Acts 5:31, Luke 24:47, Acts 3:19,) and, even PAUL HIMSELF PREACHED REPENT of SINS (Acts 17:30; Acts 20:21, Acts 26:20, 2 Corinthians 12:21 ).
When Jesus died, rose again, and ascended to heaven, he taught to obey and repent of sins, Revelation 3:3, Revelation 14:12, Revelation 2:5, Revelation 3:19, Revelation 9:20,21,Revelation 16:10, 11.
There it is there.
Jesus taught repent of sins while he lived on earth; and he taught repent of sins after he died and ascended into heaven.
How do you ever get that scripture proves what you say?
You should study harder.
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1 John 3:24 Those who obey his commands live in him, and he in them.
Romans 2:5 But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed. 6 God “will repay each person according to what they have done.” 7 To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. 8 But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. 9 There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; 10 but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. 11 For God does not show favoritism.
Colossians 3:23 Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters, 24 since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving. 25 Anyone who does wrong will be repaid for their wrongs, and there is no favoritism.
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Paul beat his body to make it obedient to him!
It only hurts for a little while, for the one who has suffered in the body is done with sin.
People train more for a race than for giving up sins for eternal life!
1 Corinthians 9:26,27; 2 Timothy 4:7; 1 Peter 4:1; Hebrews 12:1, 4.
It only hurts for a little while, for the one who has suffered in the body is done with sin.
People train more for a race than for giving up sins for eternal life!
1 Corinthians 9:26,27; 2 Timothy 4:7; 1 Peter 4:1; Hebrews 12:1, 4.
I know that is what you say, and I have proven you wrong.
You are an enemy of grace.
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Grace is that we do not have to clean ourselves day after day year after year, just to go to the temple to be near God's Spirit.
Grace is that we only have to have faith that Jesus' blood washes us of the sins we repent of; and we become the temple.
That doesn't mean we do not have to obey God anymore; it means we don't have to get circumcised and sacrifice animals, etc.
musterion
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When I'm in good voice, I can pull off a fairly good amateur baritone of that.
But are you telling me GT's name is Mariah?
Never again.
musterion
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On TOL
they've got some names
for judging workerbees...
there's Popsbuilder
and Meshak too
but the queen bee is GT . . .
GT blows her spam around
and in the Woodshed is a-cryin'
GT can make a whole thread feel
like folks is in there dyin'.
GT....
GT...
No one works as hard as GT.
When folks are new to TOL
they like to talk or share a view
but when GT gets to posting, man,
you'll think Christ Himself can't save you.
GT...
GT...
You'll never be holy as GT.
they've got some names
for judging workerbees...
there's Popsbuilder
and Meshak too
but the queen bee is GT . . .
GT blows her spam around
and in the Woodshed is a-cryin'
GT can make a whole thread feel
like folks is in there dyin'.
GT....
GT...
No one works as hard as GT.
When folks are new to TOL
they like to talk or share a view
but when GT gets to posting, man,
you'll think Christ Himself can't save you.
GT...
GT...
You'll never be holy as GT.
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GT,
You should not take their bait to get you angry and upset.
just friendly advice.
blessings
I decide what is a mountain or a mole hill to me, not you; and, I don't need you to tell me whether or not I am angry or upset.
That is just friendly advice.
God's Truth
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I see how much God's Truth hurts you.
No, that is not the definition of grace.
God's Truth
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Grace Has nothing to do with what we do, or by what we have become.
Grace is what God has done for us in Jesus Christ. There are several scriptures that bring this out.
"While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us" Romans 5:8.
"All things are of God who has reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ" 2 Corinthians 5:18.
"For when we were without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly" Romans 5:6.
Grace is God's unconditional love for lost humanity.
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The enemies were the Gentiles.
Do you know why they were enemies of God?
They were enemies because they did not do the ceremonial works and get circumcised.
When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins,
Colossians 2:13
No such thing as unconditional love.
It isn't love to sin.
If what you said is true, then even the unbelievers would get saved and be loved by God.
All of humanity is under God's grace. All of humanity has been reconciled to God by Jesus Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:19.
You still do not understand the Gospel and justification by faith.
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All humanity is not reconciled to God by Jesus Christ.
That is an ignorant thing to say.
If all are already reconciled, then Paul would not tell people to get reconciled.
2 Corinthians 5:20 We are therefore Christ's ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ's behalf: Be reconciled to God.
The reconciliation has been provided by Jesus. Jesus has reconciled us to God. All that is required of us is to accept the reconciling work of Christ, Plus nothing.