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"Well, Paul says the eternal Godhead is clearly seen and understood by the created. Romans 1:20 :think:"
Okay I'm thinking and that doesn't jive with none ever seeing GOD as Jesus proclaims. But I must be missing something, so please; while my thinking cap is on; please do explain why that passage means whatever you are insinuating rather than the fact that the sons of GOD are the sole receptacles of true knowledge of GOD.
"The Bible says man is composed of body, soul, and spirit. 1 Thessalonians 5:23"
Perhaps you thought I was doubting you on this point(body, soul, spirit). I was not, but just showing that if the "triune" god is comprised of three separate persons and each person is comprised of three parts then this particular unity would be a nine part uhm....god?....
"The fulness of the Godhead (the entire divine nature) dwells in the person of the Lord Jesus Christ. Here we see the Holy Ghost descended in the bodily shape of a dove. It came UPON HIM. God can literally do these things - all things, in fact."
I'm not sure what thing it is you seem to think I believe is outside the ability of GOD, but please keep in mind that there are no such things as far as I am concerned.
I think the dove was a sign for man and not the fullness of GOD. This too is apparent due to the fact that the dove wasn't also the source of the voice. I really don't know what else you are leading to.
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Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
"Within context the term Godhead here seems to be refering to absolute knowledge and truth as it pertains to GOD, or the nature of GOD as it pertains to man.
Colossians: 2. 2. That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3. In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. 4. And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words. 5. For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ. 6. As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: 7. Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. 8. Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10. And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: 11. In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: 12. Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. 13. And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; 14. Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; 15. And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. 16. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17. Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. 18. Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, 19. And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God. 20. Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,
"It isn't three separate people, but ONE God with three distinct "persons" ie. subsistencies. How can the Holy Spirit dwell in us? Does the Holy Spirit take up room?"
To me this reads like " IT(GOD),isnt comprised of three separate people, but three distinct people/ subsistencies. This is exceedingly confusing and I'm not sure igneous are aware, but subsistance isn't synonymous with people, or person (the singular of people distinguishing one from multiple). I've always found the things of GOD beautifully simple and truthful, not generally being confusing at all.
Saying subsistencies is to say that one person depends on the other which in turn depends on another.....im sorry, I need scripture saying that GOD needs anything whatsoever.
Not sure why you are asking how the Holy Spirit dwells within the believer, but would say that room would have to be made in order to accommodate IT.
sub·sist·ence
səbˈsistəns/
noun
noun:*subsistence
1.
the action or fact of maintaining or supporting oneself at a minimum level.
"the minimum income needed for subsistence"
synonyms:maintenance,*keep,*upkeep,*livelihood,*room and board,*board,*nourishment,*food
"the money needed for his subsistence"
the means of doing this.
plural noun:*subsistences
"the garden provided not only subsistence but a little cash crop"
synonyms:survival,*existence,*living,*life,*sustenance,*nourishment
"they depend on fish for subsistence"
denoting or relating to production at a level sufficient only for one's own use or consumption, without any surplus for trade.
modifier noun:*subsistence
"subsistence agriculture"
2.
LAW
the state of remaining in force or effect.
"rights of occupation normally only continue during the subsistence of the marriage"
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