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The Trinity


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Bright Raven

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I already said that I am not that.

Why won't you tell me how they are different?

You want a scripture that shows they are different. Here you are;

John 14:23 King James Version (KJV)

23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

They are different persons.
 

Bright Raven

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I know what the scriptures say.

John 1:1 King James Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:1King James Version (KJV)

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

It's not that hard. Why do you make it so difficult?
 

God's Truth

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You want a scripture that shows they are different. Here you are;

John 14:23 King James Version (KJV)

23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

They are different persons.

I already told you I believe there are three. Try again.

By the way, that scripture proves they are the same because when someone gets saved, they receive one Spirit, yet they have the Father, and the Son's Spirit.
 

Bright Raven

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I already told you I believe there are three. Try again.

By the way, that scripture proves they are the same because when someone get saved, they receive one Spirit, yet they have the Father, and the Son's Spirit.

No you don't! You believe they are the same like any good little modalist.
 

God's Truth

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True, but the fact that the Word which was GOD was also with GOD implies that there were at least two persons before the creation in which they were both active.

I already told you that there are three. That scripture shows they are exactly the same when it says the Word was God, for we know the Father is God.

So you see, that scripture proves they are exactly the same and not different.
 

steko

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Steko,

Would you please tell me how they are different?

The Father was not sent but the Father sent the Son.
The Son was sent but did not send the Father.
The Son suffered but the Father saw His suffering and was satisfied in justice for sin.
The Father did not suffer.
The Son proceeded and came forth from the Father.
The Father did not proceed and come forth from the Son.
The Father said, "This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased."
The Son did not say, "This is my beloved Father in whom I am well pleased."
The Son prayed to the Father.
The Father did not pray to the Son.
The Son/Word was made flesh and dwelt among us.
The Son came to His own and His own received Him not.
The Father gave the Son a name that is above every other name.
The Son did not give the Father a name.

That's some, there's a lot more.

Things that are different are different.
 

God's Truth

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So far, the two scriptures given PROVE they are exactly the same.

They both live inside the saved.

They both are God.

So tell me how they are different.
 

Bright Raven

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The Father was not sent but the Father sent the Son.
The Son was sent but did not send the Father.
The Son suffered but the Father saw His suffering and was satisfied in justice for sin.
The Father did not suffer.
The Son proceeded and came forth from the Father.
The Father did not proceed and come forth from the Son.
The Father said, "This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased."
The Son did not say, "This is my beloved Father in whom I am well pleased."
The Son prayed to the Father.
The Father did not pray to the Son.
The Son/Word was made flesh and dwelt among us.
The Son came to His own and His own received Him not.
The Father gave the Son a name that is above every other name.
The Son did not give the Father a name.

That's some, there's a lot more.

Things that are different are different.

Good Post bro. She won't accept it.
 

God's Truth

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The Father was not sent but the Father sent the Son.
The Son was sent but did not send the Father.
The Son suffered but the Father saw His suffering and was satisfied in justice for sin.
The Father did not suffer.
The Son proceeded and came forth from the Father.
The Father did not proceed and come forth from the Son.
The Father said, "This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased."
The Son did not say, "This is my beloved Father in whom I am well pleased."
The Son prayed to the Father.
The Father did not pray to the Son.
The Son/Word was made flesh and dwelt among us.
The Son came to His own and His own received Him not.
The Father gave the Son a name that is above every other name.
The Son did not give the Father a name.

That's some, there's a lot more.

Things that are different are different.

No, all those things you are trying to show are about coming as a Man.

That is already established.

God the Father came as a Man, so the difference cannot be, "Jesus ate and the Father didn't", and, "Jesus slept,and the Father didn't", etc.

And, some of those things you put actually prove they are the same.
 
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