What are your spiritual weights?
The same as everyone else.
What are your spiritual weights?
Are you saying that I do not honor my Lord? It matters not if he is a creation because God made him Lord. Jesus did not exist until God created him in Mary's body. Jesus was a man, the FLESH son of God created to be the Lamb and the body to house the logos. You just assume to much Jamie.Jesus assumed the mantle of the Lamb of God before humans were created.
Christ is a title for a king, in this case the King of other kings.
The preeminent King.
He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him. (John 5:23)
Maligning the Son does not honor the Father.
You want to use the KJV ?
Why not the Bishops version?
Or better still the AENT.
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Bishop's says the same thing as the KJV. I have two aramaic New Testaments. Roth's translation is mystical. Bauscher's translation is in accord with the KJV. I have a third translation in the mail to break the tie so to speak. I'll let you know. It should be here in a few days.
Doesn't the AENT note for verse fourteen describe you? A Christo-pagan that teaches that Y'shua's body and spirit manifest a different word?
BR look over note 8 on page 603 of the AENT. They seem to agree with my thoughts.
You might find it of interest for it separated the spirit from the body of Jesus.
John 1:4
(Bishops) In it was lyfe, and the lyfe was the lyght of men,
(Geneva) In it was life, and that life was the light of men.
IT was life Not he was life
Doesn't make sense (double talk). It says opposite things about the flesh (it does, but it doesn't). For those who do not have the AENT, I am posting the note.
8. The fullness of Elohim (Spirit) dwells within the physical body (flesh) of Mashiyach, but not in his physical body. Paul says "Elohim sent His Son in the likeness of sinful flesh on account of sin: that He might in His flesh condemn sin." (Romans 8:3) And "flesh and blood cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven: neither does corruption inherit incorruption" (1 Cor 15:50).
Lets break it down BR:
8. The fullness of Elohim (Spirit, logos, Son) dwells within the physical body (flesh) of Mashiyach, (the power of Christ is IN Jesus but Jesus is not the power) but not in his physical body.
In plain words the spirit, logos was IN Jesus, but Jesus was not the logos.
Paul says "Elohim sent His Son in the likeness of sinful flesh on account of sin: that He might in His flesh condemn sin." (Romans 8:3) And "flesh and blood cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven: neither does corruption inherit incorruption" (1 Cor 15:50).
What was his son before it took on the likeness of human flesh.
YOCHANAN (JOHN)
Chapter 1
1. In the beginning was the Miltha. And that Miltha was with Elohim. And Elohim was that Miltha.
2. This was with Elohim in the beginning.
3. Everything existed through his hands……….
Miltha refers to the “Manifestation” of the Ruach haKodesh within Mashiyach. The physical body of Mashiyach is not the Word of YHWH, but his words and actions demonstrate the Will and Word of YHWH, which upholds observance of Torah.
Miltha is the spiritual son of Elohim (God).
Mashiyach refers to Messiah Y’shua (Jesus Christ)
YHWH is the name of the most high God.
Ruach haKodesh is the Holy Spirit.
Elohim is God or a god, it can refer to more than the creator.
Come on Keypurr, you know better than to try to pull that. How can an it have life?
You added a little bit but I understand what you are saying. Thanks, But I will still take the KJV or or trusted translation.
I was brought up using the KJV but it is not perfect, none of them are.
Sure they are perfect.
2 Timothy 3:16 King James Version (KJV)
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
DisagreeBut the originals were translated by men who inserted their own thoughts.
Disagree
We live in a time that tends to shrug its shoulders when confronted with error. Instead of asking, like Pilate, “What is truth?” postmodern man says, “Nothing is truth” or perhaps “There is truth, but we cannot know it.” We’ve grown accustomed to being lied to, and many people seem comfortable with the false notion that the Bible, too, contains errors.
The doctrine of biblical inerrancy is an extremely important one because the truth does matter. This issue reflects on the character of God and is foundational to our understanding of everything the Bible teaches. Here are some reasons why we should absolutely believe in biblical inerrancy:
1. The Bible itself claims to be perfect. “And the words of the Lord are flawless, like silver refined in a furnace of clay, purified seven times” (Psalm 12:6). “The law of the Lord is perfect” (Psalm 19:7). “Every word of God is pure” (Proverbs 30:5 KJV). These claims of purity and perfection are absolute statements. Note that it doesn’t say God’s Word is “mostly” pure or scripture is “nearly” perfect. The Bible argues for complete perfection, leaving no room for “partial perfection” theories.
2. The Bible stands or falls as a whole. If a major newspaper were routinely discovered to contain errors, it would be quickly discredited. It would make no difference to say, “All the errors are confined to page three.” For a paper to be reliable in any of its parts, it must be factual throughout. In the same way, if the Bible is inaccurate when it speaks of geology, why should its theology be trusted? It is either a trustworthy document, or it is not.
3. The Bible is a reflection of its Author. All books are. The Bible was written by God Himself as He worked through human authors in a process called “inspiration.” “All scripture is God-breathed” (2 Timothy 3:16). See also 2 Peter 1:21 and Jeremiah 1:2.
We believe that the God who created the universe is capable of writing a book. And the God who is perfect is capable of writing a perfect book. The issue is not simply “Does the Bible have a mistake?” but “Can God make a mistake?” If the Bible contains factual errors, then God is not omniscient and is capable of making errors Himself. If the Bible contains misinformation, then God is not truthful but is instead a liar. If the Bible contains contradictions, then God is the author of confusion. In other words, if biblical inerrancy is not true, then God is not God.
4. The Bible judges us, not vice versa. “For the word of God...judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart” (Hebrews 4:12). Notice the relationship between “the heart” and “the Word.” The Word examines; the heart is being examined. To discount parts of the Word for any reason is to reverse this process. We become the examiners, and the Word must submit to our “superior insight.” Yet God says, “But who are you, O man, to talk back to God?” (Romans 9:20).
5. The Bible’s message must be taken as a whole. It is not a mixture of doctrine that we are free to select from. Many people like the verses that say God loves them, but they dislike the verses that say God will judge sinners. But we simply cannot pick and choose what we like about the Bible and throw the rest away. If the Bible is wrong about hell, for example, then who is to say it is right about heaven—or about anything else? If the Bible cannot get the details right about creation, then maybe the details about salvation cannot be trusted either. If the story of Jonah is a myth, then perhaps so is the story of Jesus. On the contrary, God has said what He has said, and the Bible presents us a full picture of who God is. “Your word, O Lord, is eternal; it stands firm in the heavens” (Psalm 119:89).
6. The Bible is our only rule for faith and practice. If it is not reliable, then on what do we base our beliefs? Jesus asks for our trust, and that includes trust in what He says in His Word. John 6:67-69 is a beautiful passage. Jesus had just witnessed the departure of many who had claimed to follow Him. Then He turns to the twelve apostles and asks, “You do not want to leave too, do you?” At this, Peter speaks for the rest when he says, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life.” May we have the same trust in the Lord and in His words of life.
None of what we have presented here should be taken as a rejection of true scholarship. Biblical inerrancy does not mean that we are to stop using our minds or accept what the Bible says blindly. We are commanded to study the Word (2 Timothy 2:15), and those who search it out are commended (Acts 17:11). Also, we recognize that there are difficult passages in the Bible, as well as sincere disagreements over interpretation. Our goal is to approach Scripture reverently and prayerfully, and when we find something we do not understand, we pray harder, study more, and—if the answer still eludes us—humbly acknowledge our own limitations in the face of the perfect Word of God.
Oh my, you are brainwashed my friend.
There and many place where the Bible conflicts with itself. I have a book around here someplace you might be interested in. It deals mostly with the JKV. But it prove that none are perfect.
Yep, but to see it you need to cut through the weeds of bias.You need to take a rest for not believing in the inerrancy of scripture is heretical. Think about it. Is the Bible telling the truth about Jesus?