keypurr
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Not so. Why do you not listen to your Lord rather than man?
You follow the wrong leader, listen to Christ, John 17:3.
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You follow the wrong leader, listen to Christ, John 17:3.
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You should learn what the words mean, Mr. WordGuy.
I've shown you before you prefer your own ignorance to actual Biblical knowledge.
The SINGLE word that is TRANSLATED "express image" is charakter. Jesus is the charakter of God, since He is God.
keypurr
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You should check more than one translation. Most agree that it speaks of an exact copy in EVERY way and the Father was pleased that it contained his fullness. You need to see what it says in detail RD. You look over express image was I did for many years. Christ is a spirit like his Father in every way. He is a created godlike spirit. The firstborn of all creatures/creation.
Christ is the exact IMAGE of God, he is a FORM of God, Phil 2. But a FORM of God is not God. You have much to learn friend, just like the rest of us.
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There is only One God.
You say there are three calling themselves one.
There are not three different Gods calling themselves one.
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Jesus is not the express image of God, nor is he God.
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The is an EXACT COPY in the sense that HE IS GOD.
There is nothing in scripture to even remotely hint that God can duplicate Himself. He is the ONE AND ONLY!
keypurr
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Nope it doesn't.
It's just folks assume to much instead of really studying what is written.
Consider this, God is a Spirit.
Was Jesus a Spirirt?
Nope, he was a man, had to be to go to the cross for us.
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There was nothing the slightest bit unclear in my question.
Go read it again if you need help: http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?115654-The-Trinity&p=4770679&viewfull=1#post4770679
You said that God has always had children and I asked WHAT ABOUT BEFORE THE CREATION OF ALL THINGS?
If God has always been the Father.... then He has ALWAYS had a SON!
keypurr
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Your still not seeing scripture. God created his exact IMAGE,a Spirit like himself. But it is an IMAGE, ALL images are creations. Can you name any image that is not created?
Get you mind open to truth.
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You just keep repeating made up crap that NOBODY has said.
You are the most ignorant poster on this site (though some are very, very close).
There is ONE GOD in THREE PERSONS: Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
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What don't you get that Jesus is the physical body of the Spirit of God and he existed before coming to earth?
What don't you get about THERE IS NO ONE BESIDES ME SAYS GOD?
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Deuteronomy 4:35
You were shown these things so that you might know that the LORD is God; besides him there is no other.
Did you read that? There is NO OTHER BESIDES HIM.
Deuteronomy 4:39
Acknowledge and take to heart this day that the LORD is God in heaven above and on the earth below. There is no other.
Deuteronomy 6:4
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.
Isaiah 46:9
Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me.
You say Jesus is NOT God the Father but like Him. God rebukes you with scripture.
Malachi 2:10
Do we not all have one Father? Did not one God create us? Why do we profane the covenant of our ancestors by being unfaithful to one another?
WHO created them? Jesus did and the scripture calls him the Father.
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Wrong.
I get it just fine, you confused modalist.
You think that that the Father is the Son. You force that stupid idea on the scripture because you don't believe that the scripture actually says.
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Then answer this question:
Malachi 2:10
Do we not all have one Father? Did not one God create us? Why do we profane the covenant of our ancestors by being unfaithful to one another?
WHO created us?
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You could not be more stupid if you tried.
God is an eternal tri-unity. One GOD, three PERSONS.
They are uncreated. They are GOD. Not three gods; ONE GOD.
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No.
Scripture does NOT call The Son, The Father.
In fact, clear distinction in made between The Father & The Son, as thus...
• The Father is not the Son (John 3.17, 35; 5.22-23, 31-32; 8.16-18; 11.41-42; 12.28; 14.31; 17.1-26; Rom. 1.7; 1 Cor. 1.3; 15.24-28; 2 Cor. 1.2; Gal. 1.3; 4.4; Eph. 1.2; 6.23; Phil. 1.2; 1 Thess. 1.1; 2 Thess. 1.1-2; 1 Tim. 1.1-2; 2 Tim. 1.2; Tit. 1.4; Phm. 3; James 1.1; 2 Pet. 1.2; 1 John 4.10; 2 John 3)
• The Son is not the Father (John 3.17, 35; 5.22-23, 31-32; 8.16-18; 11.41-42; 12.28; 14.31; 17.1-26; Rom. 1.7; 1 Cor. 1.3; 15.24-28; 2 Cor. 1.2; Gal. 1.3; 4.4; Eph. 1.2; 6.23; Phil. 1.2; 1 Thess. 1.1; 2 Thess. 1.1-2; 1 Tim. 1.1-2; 2 Tim. 1.2; Tit. 1.4; Phm. 3; James 1.1; 2 Pet. 1.2; 1 John 4.10; 2 John 3)
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GOD.... gee that was hard.