The Trinity

[popsthebuilder]

Another rejecter of the atoning, vicarious, sacrificial, completed/finished work of the Cross of Calvary.

I wasn't aware a piece of wood could work.

 

[God's Truth]

Another rejecter of the atoning, vicarious, sacrificial, completed/finished work of the Cross of Calvary.

Now that is clear and true.

...but, is that a persecuting spirit you just showed us, but a right one?

 

[Rosenritter]

Originally Posted by God's Truth
You need to blame your sentence structure instead of blaming me and coffee.

Here you go with a slanderous persecuting spirit and hypocritically telling me it is me.

Thank you for getting that cup of coffee, taking the deep breath, and acknowledging finally that you comprehended my response to marhig.

Spoiler

[SARCASM]

What would we do without such drama... You know that everyone is always slandering and persecuting her, because only she has the Truth, and the Devil hates it, so she sends his Minions to attack her and go against her!

Spoiler

[/SARCASM]

 

[God's Truth]

I wasn't aware a piece of wood could work.

You aren't aware of the scriptures even when it is plainly written.

Jesus died on the cross, he is the Sacrificial Lamb of God.

Marhig and you want to rewrite the scriptures.

 

[lifeisgood]

Why didn't you take responsibility for your sentence structure? Please explain that.

This is what happens many a times, it is more important to emphasize the sentence structure, which had nothing wrong with it, than to read for comprehension.

 

[lifeisgood]

I wasn't aware a piece of wood could work.

You have your object wrong.

 

[God's Truth]

What would we do without such drama... You know that everyone is always slandering and persecuting her, because only she has the Truth!

Where did I say I was the only one? You are a false judge.

 

[lifeisgood]

Right; but now a persecuting spirit is good when it comes to you?

I did not know I had a persecuting spirit.

 

[God's Truth]

How is life as a galactic hero?

 

[God's Truth]

I did not know I had a persecuting spirit.

You persecuting me when you said I had a persecuting spirit.

You also were busy this morning with your coffee fix telling a couple others why they are persecuted.

 

[lifeisgood]

Now that is clear and true.

...but, is that a persecuting spirit you just showed us, but a right one?

Only those who read NOT for comprehension keeps on saying that they are being persecuted.

 

[lifeisgood]

You persecuting me when you said I had a persecuting spirit.

you also were busy this morning with your coffee fix telling a couple others why they are persecuted.

Oh, man, I guess that cup of coffee and the deep breath did not do the trick. And I so was hopeful.

 

[popsthebuilder]

If you don't feel that you have good fruit, how will you see it in others?

Since you are so self deprecating, how can you try to encourage others in the Lord?

You will never ever see any good in others until you get rid of your false pride.

It is not prideful to say we are in Christ. It is what Jesus does; he puts people in him.

Just because you do not see yourself as good enough to be in Christ, it does not mean God does not put us in Him. Believe what is written.

I never said that I felt as if GOD didn't produce good fruits by His work done through me by the Spirit. Ever. I just don't bring it up because it is boasting and vanity.

I love all others more so than I love myself.

Show the flaw, with scripture, if you disagree with the above statement.

I have never been a proud person due to my upbringing.

I have been made nearly wholly without pride now as my wants are as nothing and my body is as good as dead, yet I breath by the grace and mercy and will of GOD.

I do not deny believers are in Christ. I deny that they are to proclaim such placing them over others.

The lowest, and humble wouldn't do that, though in reality they will be of the few.

 

[God's Truth]

This is what happens many a times, it is more important to emphasize the sentence structure, which had nothing wrong with it, than to read for comprehension.

Take responsibility for you making an incomprehensible sentence.

 

[popsthebuilder]

I wonder who you think is looking at you in the mirror. :think:

No-one. It is only a two dimensional reflection that you yourself see. It doesn't actually see you silly.

 

[God's Truth]

I never said that I felt as if GOD didn't produce good fruits by His work done through me by the Spirit. Ever. I just don't bring it up because it is boasting and vanity.

I love all others more so than I love myself.

Show the flaw, with scripture, if you disagree with the above statement.

I have never been a proud person due to my upbringing.

I have been made nearly wholly without pride now as my wants are as nothing and my body is as good as dead, yet I breath by the grace and mercy and will of GOD.

I do not deny believers are in Christ. I deny that they are to proclaim such placing them over others.

The lowest, and humble wouldn't do that, though in reality they will be of the few.

No; the self sacrifice of the Christ is the example and way to follow. As His body was crucified; we whom are His are likewise dead to the wants of the flesh.

But that's only half now isn't it?

He was resurrected in the Spirit and we too; being dead to the flesh and seeking to do the Will of GOD alone through the Spirit, are made alive in Christ. Yet though to claim oneself as Christ or even in Christ is gross error and vanity, especially when ones works are wholly opposed to the fruits of the Spirit.

See that, you spoke against yourself being in Christ. And, you should not ever say that you are Christ.

How do you ever get that it is wrong for a child of God to say they are saved and in Christ?

 

[God's Truth]

Oh, man, I guess that cup of coffee and the deep breath did not do the trick. And I so was hopeful.

So you are not persecuting? What is that post then? What are you doing?

 

[God's Truth]

No-one. It is only a two dimensional reflection that you yourself see. It doesn't actually see you silly.

You don't need to call that person 'silly'.

 

[KingdomRose]

At the end of the day, no matter what individuals have thought up in their own minds, the doctrine of the Trinity is erroneous, spurious, blasphemous and wrong. Almighty God will not allow this garbage to go on and on....soon all of the lies will be fully exposed and done away with. God said, "You people will have to know that I am Jehovah." (Ezekiel 7:4) No more pagan teachings will be tolerated on this earth.

William Penn once said: "Know then, my friend, that the Trinity was born above 300 years after the ancient Gospel was declared; it was conceived in ignorance, brought forth and maintained by cruelty." Amen!


Why do people believe it? What is it that they fear?

"A fearful believer obstructs the whole point of the Christian venture which is to seek progressive understanding of truth. History, unfortunately, is often seen through the eye of the beholder, particularly if a historical matter is viewed from a narrow secular or religious perspective. ...Given time and distance a huge GAP develops between historical reality and a canonized version of the facts. Interestingly, the Church has been ready to support great political leaders when they further the Christian cause and back its ecclesiastical control. [Kissing up to worldly politicians.] At the edict of Milan in 313 A.D., the Emperor Constantine secured age-lasting honor from the Christian Church by granting complete toleration to all Christians and other cults. A few years later he charted the rough course which led to the settlement of disputes over doctrine between rival factions. The result was the first major step toward the formal incorporation of Trinitarian belief into Christianity. [A pagan emperor who decided what Christians were to believe!]

"Most Christians would be surprised at the implications of the observation of the Roman Catholic scholar, W.E. Addis. Commenting on the religious turmoil caused by the attempt to introduce the idea that God was more than one person, he said: 'The bulk of Christians, had they been let alone, would have been satisfied with the old belief in one God, the Father, and would have distrusted the "dispensation," as it has been called, by which the sole Diety of the Father expanded into the Diety of the Father and the Son...."All simple people," Tertullian wrote, "not to call them ignorant and uneducated...take fright at the 'dispensation'...They will have it that we are proclaiming two or three gods."'" (Christianity and the Roman Empire, New York: W.W. Norton, 1967, p.174)

And indeed such was the case.


See The Doctrine of the Trinity/ Christianity's Self-Inflicted Wound by Anthony Buzzard & Charles Hunting, 1998, pp. 137-139.

You people are so scatter-brained that you can't even recognize a relevant post when it is offered, and you go right on bickering. Can you think beyond your shallow little ideas? Or is my post too difficult for you to understand?

 

[KingdomRose]

Reply to Rosenritter's post #14612:

You dismiss him why? Do you deprecate him because he disagrees with your unsupportable doctrines? Tell me...how do you interpret John 17:3 ?