Luke 23:42 "Then he said to Jesus, 'Lord, remember me when You come into Your kingdom.'"
Short and sweet. It's a person's attitude that counts.
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Luke 23:42 "Then he said to Jesus, 'Lord, remember me when You come into Your kingdom.'"
Short and sweet. It's a person's attitude that counts.
Apple7
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6days
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I think that's true. The thief on the cross was not concerned with theology of things such as predestination. He simply knew that Jesus was His Savior. I don't know if the thief realized that his Lord and Savior, the Messiah, was also his Creator
Sorry, same person.
Rosenritter
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Jesus said you were wrong in exact words and you just sloughed it. Have you no conscience?
Rev 22:13-16 KJV
(13) I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
(14) Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
(15) For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
(16) I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
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Rosenritter
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Genesis actually. And Chronicles.
1 Chronicles 1:1-4 KJV
Adam, Sheth, Enosh, [2] Kenan, Mahalaleel, Jered, [3] Henoch, Methuselah, Lamech, [4] Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
The Hebrew names have meanings. Read the first ten names in a row and it says something interesting. Some of the name meanings are already explained for you if you pay attention in Genesis.
marhig
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And why do you disregard Jesus when he says the that God is his God? And the apostles also, when they say that God is the God of our lord Jesus Christ? Why should I believe you and others when there is no God the son in the Bible? No trinity? There is only God the father, I'm believing the scriptures, you're believing men's interpretations from 300 years after the birth of Jesus when they worked out a duality then decided to add the holy ghost and make the trinity. You're telling me that I should believe things that aren't in the Bible.
marhig
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We're born of the spirit in this lifetime, not when we die.
marhig
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And those who belong to God worship him in spirit and in truth. They walk in and live by the spirit, and they bare witness to the truth, they deny their flesh, obey God, and bring Christ who lives through them to others.
Those who are saved are those with the indwelling spirit in the heart and he is saving them by helping them, through Christ, to overcome Satan daily. And if we endure to the end then we have the hope of eternal salvation.
If you believe that only those who believe in a triune God are saved, then not only are you very judgemental, but you are also very wrong, because Jesus said that eternal life is to believe in the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom he has sent. And that's exactly what I believe in.
We can't judge who will or won't be saved, only God can do that. And you're not God, so I'd save the judging for him if I were you, because as you judge, then you're being judged also, and those people you are judging could love God with their whole hearts and be living a life to please him.
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marhig
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What about Hebrews 1:9? What does your translation say about that?
The son isn't God, it doesn't say that in the Bible, he is the son of God, and Jesus calls himself this also!
marhig
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Or they could see that that Jesus calls God his God also?
6days
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YEs... Jesus is the Son of God. Do you think that Jesus is a son in a genetic sense? No.... Son of God is used as a title, not that Jesus is really a son. We can use other scripture to see this is true. That title helps us understand the relationship.
marhig
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Can you show me verse with the words God the son in the Bible please?
6days
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Of course!! Jesus was fully human as you and I are. He was also the Creator who humbled Himself becoming a man, in order to be our Mediator.
6days
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You can create many phrases and titles not found in the Bible. It does not negate the fact that scripture shows Jesus has every attribute the Father has (omnipresence, omniscience etc). Jesus is the mighty God.
marhig
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Jesus was human yes, at least you believe that, so if Jesus was fully human, do your believe that he had the ability to sin?
He clearly said he's going to his God, God is the God of Jesus also, just as Jesus himself said, and the apostles say this also.
Jesus did become our Mediator to bring God who was in fullness through the spirit in him to us and reconcile us to God, but this doesn't make him God.
marhig
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So you can't show me then? Then you can't expect me to believe it if its not in the Bible!
lifeisgood
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marhig, rejects the blood for her salvation and says she is saved by Jesus' life.
lifeisgood
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When I presented you with the Aramaic English in response to something you assert, contradicting your own assertion of what you say it says, you rejected your own 'preferred' Aramaic English.
Please, stop saying you believe what the Aramaic English says, because you don't.
You, keypurr, having had the Truth with you for many years, volitionally and knowingly and UNbiblically, rejected it for THE LIE that came to you all of a sudden, out of the blue, when you were not looking for it and embraced THE LIE line, hook, and sinker.
The thief cometh not but to steal and kill and destroy (Jn. 10:10). That is what you have allowed this angel of darkness do to you, keypurr, move you away from the Truth and embrace THE LIE which you now preach as your new banner of your faith that no one else in the world has.
You are serving a twice possessed god of your own making and that is frighteningly sad.
There is still time, keypurr, for you to come back to Him and His finished legal work on the Cross of Calvary. He is waiting for you to come back to Him with His arms wide open.