The Spiritual Person and the Natural Person

Gurucam

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The following is an instruction to transgress the ten commandments, so as to serve spirit unconditionally. This is how one stops bringing 'fruits onto dead' and starts bringing forth 'fruits onto God':

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. (this is to soweth to the flesh)
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. (this is to soweth to the Spirit)
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

In the above the instruction is, transgress the 'thou shall not covet' commandment so as to serve spirit/love, unconditionally. Now in the following the Holy KJV N.T. says "But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you." Both are about same instruction:

Romans: 6 KJV N.T.
14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.


Clearly when one transgress the ten commandments so as to serve spirit/love, sin has no dominion over one. In fact, in Romans: 7 above newly converted people are instructed to transgress the 'thou shall not covet' commandment so as to serve spirit/love, unconditionally. This is so that they will stop bringing 'fruits onto dead' and start bringing forth 'fruits onto God'.

One is grateful to God for this New covenant. God be thanked.

Transgressing the ten commandments so as to serve spirit (as mentioned in Romans: 7 above) is the same as transgressing the ten commandments according to 'that form of doctrine which was delivered to one's own heart' (as mentioned in Romans 6 above).

That is, God be thanked because one can transgress the ten commandments to serve spirit and so stop bringing 'fruits onto dead' and start bringing forth 'fruits onto God'. This is how to inherit God's kingdom of heaven.

Matthews: 21 KJV N.T.
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.


This New covenant, in which one must transgress 'the thou shall not covet' in order to serve/obey spirit, unconditionally is described as, 'obedience onto righteousness' This is not sin onto death. The New covenant is 'obedience onto righteousness'. This replaced the Old covenant among 'converted' people. The Old covenant is 'sin onto death'.

Those who transgress the ten commandments so as to serve spirit/love are under obedience onto righteousness. They get no sin. Sin has no dominion or reach over them. They serve spirit and sin cannot reach them.

On the other hand those who esteem, use, promote and/or invoke the ten commandments are under the law of sin and death. The get sin and death for doing the same acts.

One who transgresses the ten commandments to serve only lust/flesh commits sin onto death. They are 'the dead' and they have no choice. They are in the flesh (only) and they must obey the ten commandments totally and perfectly or they perish, i.e. they get sin and death.

It is different for the spiritually aware (the converted). They can transgress the ten commandments and not get sin and death because they can serve spirit/love. And when one can and do serve spirit and love sin and death cannot reach/touch one.

One who transgresses the ten commandments to serve spirit, serves "obedience onto righteousness". In this case the Holy KJV N.T. says: "God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin (did sinful things), but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you (you were led by your heart/spirit). Being then made free from sin (because you were led by spirit/love, as instructed), ye became the servants of righteousness.
 

Gurucam

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Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. (this is to soweth to the flesh)
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.


In the above, the Holy KJV N.T. says: Those who esteem, use, promote and/o invoke the 'thou shall not covet' commandment in the lease way, bring forth only 'fruits onto death' and no 'fruit onto God'. Those who transgress the 'thou shall not covet commandment so as to serve spirit and love, bring forth only 'fruits onto God' and no 'fruits onto death'.

Matthews: 21 KJV N.T.
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.


One needs to bring forth only 'fruits onto God' and no 'fruits onto death' to inherit God's kingdom. Do you believe that this must be commonly and widely known?

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.


Traditional Christians and other O.T. people have a 'lemon used car sales man' pitch which they use to deny, distort, corrupt and/or undermine these revelations from the Holy KJV N.T.. They have no regard for the Holy KJV N.T.. This is why:

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many (billions) are called, but few are chosen


Fact is:

Mark: 12 KJV N.T.
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?


The above is totally supported by:

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh (Ishmael); but he of the freewoman was by promise (Isaac).
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.


Robert Pate, will you continue to deny, distort, corrupt and/or undermine hundreds of these clear revelations from the Holy KJV N.T.?
 
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Gurucam

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Colossians: 1 KJV N.T.
Even the mystery which has been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints.

Matthews: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.


The mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven were hidden from Abraham's generations for a long time. Eventually it was found to be appropriate for Jesus to deliver these mysteries to Abraham's generations. This was just 2000 odd years ago.

However, at that time, the very great majority of Abraham's generation were hostile and not accepting to these mysteries, which were anchored on a new approach to God's righteousness. This new approach totally dismissed the Old Mosaic system that was given to the Jews. The ruling Jews of that time totally objected to and strongly opposed Jesus and his New approach to God's righteousness.

The New approach was (and continue to be) anchored on righteousness of God that is without the ten commandments. In fact the New approach came with God given freedom, liberty, justification and instruction to transgress the ten commandments, so as to serve spirit/love unconditionally. The New approach anchored the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

Here, for the asking, I can list scores of revelations from the Holy KJV N.T. wich literally and totally support the above.

It became/was necessary for Jesus to deliver these mysteries secretly to only a chosen few of Abraham's generation. These were the disciples. Jesus delivered these mysteries to only the disciples, in private sessions among only them. However these mysteries did not die with the disciples.

These mysteries remained recorded in the Holy KJV N.T. in plain sight. These mysteries were always there for the genuine seeker. A genuine seeker is one with an open heart. This is one who was/is not preoccupied and/or preconditioned with the Old Mosaic system.

On the other hand, these mysteries, although plainly displayed in the pages of the Holy KJV N.T., would easily be by-passed and/or overlooked by any one who, in the slightest way, esteem, use, promote and/or invoke the Old Mosaic system.

Service to Jesus is literally to bring these fact to the attention of those who genuine want to follow Jesus.

Robert Pate, service to Jesus is not anchored in promoting your own judgment and your own ideas. One's judgment of another is solely for one's own private use. This is solely to inform and guide one's own direction. This is not for one person to condemn another person and deny him or her access to truth.

All must be given the opportunity to know what is literally said in the Holy KJV N.T., about the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

No one should have to go through your 'fleshy' interpretations, which inevitably is a religion of your own making.

If you truly want to help people, do not judge them, instead simply connect them with the literal revelations in the Holy JKV N.T., which relates directly and only to the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

The mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven was intended, by God, to be free public knowledge for all of Abraham's generations, since 2000 odd years ago. These mysteries were given privately only to the disciples because of the evil and adulterous Jews of 2000 odd years ago:

Matthews: 12 KJV N.T.
39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

1 Thessalonians 2
14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:


Wake up and smell the aroma of truth, a la, literally, the Holy KJV N.T.

Do not be a false spying brethren. Do not be foisting the Old Mosaic system, including the ten commandments, on unsuspecting, innocent aspiring Christians:


Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage

Galatians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
 
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