The sad part is your posts here. You can prattle along all day and never say anything substantive.Things were pretty clear in my responses anyway but the juvenile is pretty much the essence of these forums nowadays, unfortunately. A sad departure from what it once was.
Well, He sure made an exception for her didn't He.
Otherwise why grant her such a favour? Haven't you already conceded that God doesn't discriminate against people based on colour or creed etc?
Therein lies the point.
'Settled view'? No such thing going on here.
As has been explained numerous times before, it's entirely possible for an omnipotent God to know what's going to happen without settling it or influencing anything.
If you don't get that still then meh...
Did God only come to save "His people"?
Not a saviour of the world then?
Again, bit of a disconnect if God doesn't discriminate based on race etc...
People can label themselves all they like, it's the fruits that matter overall and you're in no position to accuse anyone of misunderstanding the Bible frankly,
nor are you in the position to arrogantly presume that those who disagree with you don't have any faith or repented of wrongdoing etc.
With that being said, a hard pass on your latter. A real hard pass...
I'm not trying to trap you into saying God is anything. That you read that from my response should give you pause for thought for how you actually read this account as yours is the rocky position, not mine. You're the one who's argued that Jesus referred to her with a slur commonplace to her race.Yes. He made an exception because of her great faith.
God had a plan.
He was following that plan.
That plan did not involve the Gentiles at that point in time.
Why is that so hard for you to understand?
You're trying to trap me into saying God is a racist. It's not going to happen, because God isn't a racist.
The "settled view" refers to the idea that the future is predetermined, that everything that happens was going to happen.
Again, God does not know the future, and thus, Jesus could not know what the woman's response would be.
Also, omnipotent means "all power."
I believe the word you're looking for is "omniscient."
You have been shown using a purely logical argument how God having infallible knowledge of the future necessarily means that the future is settled. You have yet to refute even a single syllable of it.
So no, I'm "not going to get it" because you haven't demonstrated that rational argument being wrong.
Jesus came to save His people, so that they could in turn preach to the world.
The plan was for Israel to take the gospel of Christ to the world through their faith.
That backfired, and so God took the gospel of Christ to the world in SPITE of Israel's unbelief.
Again, God isn't a racist, as you seemingly want to make it seem that that's what I'm trying to say, when it's not.
Says the person who refuses to understand the Bible.
Who said I'm presuming anything?
You've shown by your fruits on TOL that you are not saved, because of your lack of faith and that you have not repented of wrongdoing.
Stupid doesn't make you sin, Arthur. Sin makes you stupid.
And you, sir, are one of the stupidest people I've ever met.
This passage describes you perfectly.
If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wranglings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself.
Error and Greed - If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness,www.biblegateway.com
I'm not trying to trap you into saying God is anything. That you read that from my response should give you pause for thought for how you actually read this account as yours is the rocky position, not mine. You're the one who's argued that Jesus referred to her with a slur commonplace
to her race.
You don't get to decide on what God does and doesn't know in advance,
Just because you can't understand how
foreknowledge doesn't equate to a predetermined future doesn't mean other people can't
thankfully so just more of your usual pseudo intellectual blather frankly.
Thank you for your opinion where it comes to the latter and allow me to be equally candid in kind.
Your views on my salvation status and intellectual acumen mean absolutely nothing to me.
The fruits that you've shown on here were already long past their sell by date years ago.
You, sir, are one of the vilest people I've ever met
who has espoused the most sickening and twisted views ever posted on a forum I've been part of.
Anyone who advocates that infants could possibly be tried for *capital crimes* and be stabbed to death
is - to put it kindly - sick in the head.
You've never shown anything resembling compassion, empathy or understanding for people
and instead sit on a pompous high horse and label folk such as the homeless as "bums" instead.
I won't call you stupid as that would be dishonest,
you obviously have intellect, just not a heart to go with it.
Everyone is human indeed, regardless of creed, skin colour etc which again should give you pause for thought as to why you think Jesus would insult the woman simply for not being Jewish. Obviously more in play going on here and pretty obvious too really. A lesson to the disciples and readers of the account in the present, much the same way as the parable of the good Samaritan taught against prejudice in like manner.Because He did.
I'm the one agreeing with Scripture. You're not.
No, her race is "human."
It was a derogatory term for "Gentile."
Gentile is not a race.
And you do?
The Bible says God does not know the future.
You say He does.
Who's right, you or the Bible?
What I can and cannot understand has nothing to do with it.
It is irrational to argue that anyone, let alone God, can infallibly know the future, and it not be settled.
If you can understand it, then please show logically how it is so, and refute the following:
You won't, because you cannot, because the above argument is rationally sound.
Put up or shut up.
I have no idea what you're referring to here, because you did not specify what you were responding to.
Of course it doesn't, but it should.
If someone is saying that they don't consider you saved, based on the evidence, then they're giving you the benefit of the doubt, and assuming you are not.
Whatever that means...
Well that's just your subjective opinion!
Says the one who advocates homosexuality and the murder of children...
Where have I ever said that they could be? QUOTE ME. I dare you.
More subjective opinion.
That's because you wouldn't recognize compassion, empathy, or understanding for people, if they danced naked in front of you for hours on end.
Anyone who refuses to work is, by definition, a bum.
If I'm being stupid, then please, tell me, by all means.
But that implies that I'm actually being stupid.
Says the one who advocates the murder of children in the safest place on earth, the womb.