One view is the original Eucharist was more of a thanksgiving memorial supper, a ritual of 'remembrance'. The key emphasis is remembering the personhood, life, ministry, example and teaching of Jesus, in light of the kingdom of heaven, and doing the will of the Father. Jesus comes to bring us the bread and wine of spiritual truth, his living word.
It would be a matter of research to determine just how they celebrated the Passover, if true to Jewish custom or slightly tailored with the Master's new revelation and interpretation related to what elements were taken. Naturally if Jesus was ushering in a new dispensation of truth to mankind, the good news of the Kingdom, it may come with new emphasis, innovation and translation of older customs, investing new meanings and values.
Not having read the UB with an open mind or free of bias and preconceptions, you're not qualified to make such a judgment. Intelligence speaks for itself, in whatever context and framework, but one must first know/understand that context & framework. The
Supper of Remembrance stands, and what is signifies and means still holds (however free from barbaric concepts of vicarious blood-atonement and other primitive sacrificial concepts which may have been woven into the symbolism).
There's where you're wrong. The Spirit qualifies me. Neither do I need to walk out in front of a truck to know it's going to hurt me.
I want to make something plain so that hopefully both of you can see the difference. I am NOT against gleaning in other fields, not one bit, because I know when He poured Himself into His creation He fragmented Himself, and because we were told we could eat of ALL the trees of the garden BUT the one (carnal minds of men).
BUT; HE has to tell you to go there to glean, or you've been led there by your own lusts, and therefore for YOU, it's sin. And the ONLY REASON, He tells anyone to glean is NOT TO STAY IN EGYPT, but to plunder the hidden riches of wisdom, being held in UN-righteousness, distilling them out of the darkness they are being held in, THROUGH THE MIND OF CHRIST, like the new wine of the kingdom.
In effect, taking those riches and translating them out of that kingdom of darkness (ignorance of Christ), and into the kingdom of light (understanding that ONLY comes through His Spirit).
When you have the pattern, you can look at ANYTHING under heaven, and see the truth that has been corrupted and where it fits into the pattern. Without the pattern and the mind of Christ translating it, it's still corrupted and does not profit you.
And He sends you into these kingdoms of darkness, so you can speak their "language" to carry others out that have been brought into bondage, not so you can stay and become one of their ambassadors. Daniel had all the knowledge of the Chaldeans, Moses had all the knowledge of the Egyptians.
And it's not hard to see which is which, when you've stayed in Egypt too long and with the wrong motive of the heart.
Romans 1:18 KJV
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
2Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women (SOULS) laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. 9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was .
Psalm 104:24 KJV
O LORD, how manifold are thy works! in wisdom hast thou made them all: the earth is full of thy riches.
2 Samuel 22:12 KJV
And he made darkness pavilions round about him, dark waters, and thick clouds of the skies.
Isaiah 45:3 KJV
And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the LORD, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel.
See:
Atonement without blood
Yes, the logos of God is more than enough,
yet that logos is not limited to only what men have 'canonized' as the 'Bible', for revelation is progressive and the Ocean of God's Spirit branches out in many streams. Truth is universal.
The Eucharist is an awesome subject, researching its historical development and hidden meanings, symbolic and literal.
What is key is the symbolism and its spiritual translation, especially in the hearts and minds of those partaking of the elements relating to the kingdom of heaven and the spiritual communion each soul has with its spiritual Father.
Lets
remember whats essential.
pj
