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-some tell us we are totally depraved

-others tell us they are saved

-some tell us we worship statues

-others tell us they don't sin

-some tell us Jesus is not God

-who can you trust?

-you can trust the church Jesus gave us

Good thing the true church is NOT the RCC otherwise God would have lied and idolatry would be the the norm, which of course Christians avoid because God said do not make or bow before statues.
 

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If your hand got sore while you were writing all that, would it be called Polycarpal Tunnel Syndrome?
I use the geneva bible translated by Martin Luther
 
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TulipBee

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-some tell us we are totally depraved

-others tell us they are saved

-some tell us we worship statues

-others tell us they don't sin

-some tell us Jesus is not God

-who can you trust?

-you can trust the church Jesus gave us
Free will has long been the mainstay of the Papal Antichrist, but our Reformed forefathers were not fooled by this humanistic lie of the devil.
 

Cruciform

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Free will has long been the mainstay of the Papal Antichrist, but our Reformed forefathers were not fooled by this humanistic lie of the devil.
Is it your assumption, then, that the Christian faith does not affirm the free will of human beings?
 

Cruciform

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1st century Christians were not R.C.'s they did NOT practice idolatry as do R.C.'s nor did they pray to Mary or dead folks. Your question was answered you cannot handle the truth.
You have not answered the question as it was asked. I'll give you one more chance before I point out just why you're desperately avoiding actually answering the question. This is a simple yes-or-no reply on your part:

QUESTION: In the 1st-century Early Church, were those who entered the Church in response to the apostles' teachings permitted to believe contrary to what their leaders (the apostles) told them to believe, yes or no?



Gaudium de veritate,

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Cruciform

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Good thing the true church is NOT the RCC otherwise God would have lied and idolatry would be the the norm, which of course Christians avoid because God said do not make or bow before statues.
Already answered---and decisively corrected---HERE. Therefore, you're simply lying (Ex. 20:16; Prov. 19:5).
 

dodge

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You have not answered the question as it was asked. I'll give you one more chance before I point out just why you're desperately avoiding actually answering the question. This is a simple yes-or-no reply on your part:

QUESTION: In the 1st-century Early Church, were those who entered the Church in response to the apostles' teachings permitted to believe contrary to what their leaders (the apostles) told them to believe, yes or no?



Gaudium de veritate,

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Asked and answered ! You avoid the answers to stay in your rebellion against God and to stay in your idolatry.
 

Cruciform

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YOU AVOIDED BELIEVING AND FOLLOWING THE TEACHING OF GOD TO STAY IN YOUR IDOLATRY.
Here was the question that dodge...well, dodged...three times:

QUESTION: In the 1st-century Early Church, were those who entered the Church in response to the apostles' teachings permitted to believe contrary to what their leaders (the apostles) told them to believe, yes or no?

Of course, the answer that dodge should have given---but which he could not allow himself to post---is "NO," 1st-century early Christians were NOT permitted to hold beliefs contrary to what their leaders (the apostles) told them to believe. Likewise with believers today: we are not permitted to hold beliefs contrary to what the ordained apostolic leaders (bishops) of Christ's one historic Catholic Church deliver for the faithful to follow and obey. As in the beginning, so down to our own day as well. This is what dodge so desperately tried not to acknowledge, but its truth remains nevertheless.


Back to Post #2648.



Gaudium de veritate,

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dodge

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Cruciform;4750280]Here was the question that dodge...well, dodged...three times:

QUESTION: In the 1st-century Early Church, were those who entered the Church in response to the apostles' teachings permitted to believe contrary to what their leaders (the apostles) told them to believe, yes or no?




Christians follow the scripture Marians follow Mary and their pope. That is what Cruciform so desperately tries to hide.
 

dodge

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Protestant sectarians like dodge follow their preferred interpretations of Scripture (that is, their own opinions); Catholics follow the authoritative teachings of Christ's one historic Church.

Back to Post #2651.

Yep, you follow your interpreters interpretations right into "idolatry " and Mary worship. Your loss not mine.

FYI, Christ Jesus' followers do not follow anyone into idolatry.
 

TulipBee

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the church teaches:
-redemption
-repentance
-forgiveness
-grace
-work
-mercy

“A man’s free will cannot cure him even of the toothache, or a sore finger; and yet he madly thinks it is in its power to cure his soul.” – Augustus Toplady.
 

chrysostom

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“A man’s free will cannot cure him even of the toothache, or a sore finger; and yet he madly thinks it is in its power to cure his soul.” – Augustus Toplady.

the church doesn't teach total depravity
-can you help me find it in the bible?
 
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