ECT "THE CHURCH": A Description of the Biblical Data
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HisServant
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Yet when he preached in the synagogues, etc... law required that he do so in Hebrew. And his ministry was primarily to the Jews which as a Rabbi would also have to have been in Hebrew.
There are isolated instances where Aramaic would have been appropriate (like the woman at the well).. but they were few and far between.
These are the facts.
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Of course, given that Christianity began as a movement within Judaism. This is no great news.
Umm...So what?
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HisServant
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http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Articles/Jesus_Hebrew/jesus_hebrew.html
He had to speak Hebrew to fulfill the prophesies about him and to be a good Jew.
Its a very good link with some very insightful info.
Remember, the 'King of the Jews' written on his cross was in Hebrew.
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Jesus could speak Hebrew, and probably Greek, but his first and primary language was Aramaic. You've already been answered on this point.
HisServant
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No, his primary language was Hebrew... as were most of the commentaries by early church fathers... some of whom admit that the original writings of the New Testament were in Hebrew.
Jesus parents were devout Jews... and the language of the Synagogue was Hebrew (where he did the majority of his preaching). AND the sign above his head on the cross was in Hebrew... not Greek or Aramaic.
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No, Jesus primarily spoke Hebrew, as has been proven by modern scholars.
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The spoken languages among the Jews of that period [at the time of Jesus] were Hebrew, Aramaic, and to an extent Greek. Until recently, it was believed by numerous scholars that the language spoken by Jesus' disciples was Aramaic. It is possible that Jesus did, from time to time, make use of the Aramaic language. But during that period Hebrew was both the daily language and the language of study. The Gospel of Mark contains a few Aramaic words, and this was what misled scholars. Today, after the discovery of the Hebrew Ben Sira (Ecclesiasticus), of the Dead Sea Scrolls, and of the Bar Kochba Letters, and in light of more profound studies of the language of the Jewish Sages, it is accepted that most people were fluent in Hebrew. The Pentateuch was translated into Aramaic for the benefit of the lower strata of the population. The parables in the Rabbinic literature, on the other hand, were delivered in Hebrew in all periods. There is thus no ground for assuming that Jesus did not speak Hebrew; and when we are told (Acts 21:40) that Paul spoke Hebrew, we should take this piece of information at face value.
This question of the spoken language is especially important for understanding the doctrines of Jesus. There are sayings of Jesus which can be rendered both in Hebrew and Aramaic; but there are some which can only be rendered into Hebrew, and none of them can be rendered only in Aramaic. One can thus demonstrate the Hebrew origins of the Gospels by retranslating them into Hebrew.
(Jewish Sources in Early Christianity, Adama Books)
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The spoken languages among the Jews of that period [at the time of Jesus] were Hebrew, Aramaic, and to an extent Greek. Until recently, it was believed by numerous scholars that the language spoken by Jesus' disciples was Aramaic. It is possible that Jesus did, from time to time, make use of the Aramaic language. But during that period Hebrew was both the daily language and the language of study. The Gospel of Mark contains a few Aramaic words, and this was what misled scholars. Today, after the discovery of the Hebrew Ben Sira (Ecclesiasticus), of the Dead Sea Scrolls, and of the Bar Kochba Letters, and in light of more profound studies of the language of the Jewish Sages, it is accepted that most people were fluent in Hebrew. The Pentateuch was translated into Aramaic for the benefit of the lower strata of the population. The parables in the Rabbinic literature, on the other hand, were delivered in Hebrew in all periods. There is thus no ground for assuming that Jesus did not speak Hebrew; and when we are told (Acts 21:40) that Paul spoke Hebrew, we should take this piece of information at face value.
This question of the spoken language is especially important for understanding the doctrines of Jesus. There are sayings of Jesus which can be rendered both in Hebrew and Aramaic; but there are some which can only be rendered into Hebrew, and none of them can be rendered only in Aramaic. One can thus demonstrate the Hebrew origins of the Gospels by retranslating them into Hebrew.
(Jewish Sources in Early Christianity, Adama Books)
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You have no idea what you're talking about. The only NT document that the early Fathers say was originally written in Hebrew is the gospel of Matthew. That's it. Please adequately educate yourself before presuming to post on a public forum.
You've already been answered on the rest of your post.
genuineoriginal
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FTFY and you are welcome.
HisServant
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You apparently have no idea about the state of current scholarship. It has been widely proven that the sentence structure and form of the Greek New Testament writings are in fact HEBREW in origin which proves the Greek was translated from Hebrew.
Educate yourself.
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Your claim about the testimony of the early Church Fathers was erroneous. My statement stands exactly as posted.
Educate yourself.
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Then take me off of ignore and read THIS
HisServant
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It's not erroneous at all.... its about as contemporary a witness you are ever going to get that indicates that the original writings by the Apostles were in Hebrew and Jesus spoke mainly in Hebrew during his lifetime.
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Already answered (Post #29).
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