ok doser
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what defines someone as "black"?
Study: Homophobes Might Be Hidden Homosexuals
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what defines someone as "black"?
I didn't major in biology though I believe it physically depends upon the level of melatonin in one's skin. (beyond that it remains culturally subjective)
Did I really need to explain this to you...or do you just have an issue with the general term "black"?
Or are you just that thick?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
nope - what defines someone as "black" is that person's self definition - bammy, for instance, is 50/50, yet he chooses to identify as black
Rachel Dolezal was accepted for years as a self-identified "black" woman, even though her heritage was european
in a similar fashion, what defines someone as a homosexual is their choice to self-identify as a homosexual
well, that and doing homosexual stuff
genuineoriginal
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The predisposition for homosexuality has no differences than a predisposition for bestiality and cannibalism.
Assuming that homosexuality is somehow more noble than bestiality and cannibalism is foolishness.
I see no reason to give any of them freedom to engage life as such.
Perpetuating the myth that the black culture is inalterable is also foolishness.
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source (some language may be offensive)
All this said, the problem with true determining true blackness is that it ignores the reality of the majority of blacks.
The majority are not lawless, not in jail, not pregnant, not unemployed, not stupid, not victims, not on welfare, not seeking reparations, not victim of a plantation mentality, not voting Republican, not voting Democratic because they are politically neophytes, not Oprah, not Old Dirty Bastard, and not in the least bit seeking to be defined by upperclass blacks or academic whites.
The majority of blacks work for a living, attend church in greater numbers than whites, and are more likely to pray on a daily basis. There are more blacks with advanced degrees than there are in jail, double the number in college than on welfare, three times as many out of poverty as those in poverty. Almost 50% own their home and are married. Most telling, there are more blacks in the millitary than in jail and on welfare combined.
Where exactly are all these blacks in the discussions about blacks? Why is the vocabulary employed for discussion of blackness stocked with welfare, crime, slavery, victimization rather than triumph, progress, and striving? The majority of blacks have come a long way and are keeping their minds on self-sufficiency everyday.
These are Chris Rock blacks that he says he loves (as do I). These are the invisible blacks that the white left and right leave out of the picture. The Left wants us all downtrodden in order to justify failed programs and keep us as a political ornament.
The Right wants us all to be thuggish parasites in order to prove we are biologically defective and historic racism has played no part in how we arrived to today, under capitalized and less than equal in comparison to whites.
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source (some language may be offensive)
All this said, the problem with true determining true blackness is that it ignores the reality of the majority of blacks.
The majority are not lawless, not in jail, not pregnant, not unemployed, not stupid, not victims, not on welfare, not seeking reparations, not victim of a plantation mentality, not voting Republican, not voting Democratic because they are politically neophytes, not Oprah, not Old Dirty Bastard, and not in the least bit seeking to be defined by upperclass blacks or academic whites.
The majority of blacks work for a living, attend church in greater numbers than whites, and are more likely to pray on a daily basis. There are more blacks with advanced degrees than there are in jail, double the number in college than on welfare, three times as many out of poverty as those in poverty. Almost 50% own their home and are married. Most telling, there are more blacks in the millitary than in jail and on welfare combined.
Where exactly are all these blacks in the discussions about blacks? Why is the vocabulary employed for discussion of blackness stocked with welfare, crime, slavery, victimization rather than triumph, progress, and striving? The majority of blacks have come a long way and are keeping their minds on self-sufficiency everyday.
These are Chris Rock blacks that he says he loves (as do I). These are the invisible blacks that the white left and right leave out of the picture. The Left wants us all downtrodden in order to justify failed programs and keep us as a political ornament.
The Right wants us all to be thuggish parasites in order to prove we are biologically defective and historic racism has played no part in how we arrived to today, under capitalized and less than equal in comparison to whites.
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I disagree of course. Rather its all about outward appearances and mankinds' stubborn propensity to demarcate itself upon some culterally subjective admixture of physical, social, economic and/or religious attributes.
Its what we do.
Though, the social distinctions are vast.
Why?
Not in contention with me.
I was referring to the inevitablity of blacks - whom by and large - live within and are subsequently influenced by black society.
genuineoriginal
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The article claims that the majority of blacks (by and large) do not live within a particular "black society" that the Left and Right are presuming that they live in.
Arthur Brain
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They only exist in the liberal mind.
Well, no. While I wouldn't venture that there's many folk who have an irrational fear of homosexuals there's certainly those who have an irrational hatred or hostility towards them. The Phelps' clan and ilk being a case in point. (Ok, they hate more than just gays, in fact probably anyone who doesn't believe the exact same thing as they do etc but still...)
Zoo brought up the case of 'Just Tom' and he wasn't fictional. Granted, there was a great deal of self loathing given that he was gay himself but his over the top projection does mirror the fixation that people like aCW have where it comes to homosexuals. There's several posters here that would support the death penalty for practicing homosexuals if they had their way and the abundance of derogatory terms such as "faggot" are rooted in what else but some sort of malignant hate?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
a respect for scripture and Godly values?
Arthur Brain
Well-known member
How would it be a choice? Could you choose to be sexually attracted to other men?
Oh hang on, you're the guy who thinks folk can 'train' themselves to be attracted to tent pegs so scratch that...
Correct. The article is breaking down the stereotypical barriers put in place by society...both black and white barriers. In short, that "black society" is not immutable; in the hopes of changing American hearts and minds from both sides of the political aisle.
This is a great article so, why do you refuse to adopt a similar perspective for the continuted efforts of homosexuals?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
of course - it's called embracing perversion
same as bestiality, pedophila, being a british retard....
Arthur Brain
Well-known member
Oh, only about 48 times and his post wasn't even directly addressing you anyway dingbat.
Drama queen much?
:kookoo:
Quetzal
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This slippery slope fallacy never gets old.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
To Arthur's point: You simply can't. "Embracing perversion" (ego) is blocking your ability to choose such.
Quetzal
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Oh? Why not?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
of course you can - guys do it in prison all the time
even if you are choosing to embrace perversion?
or valid ...