# Speed of light

#### Omniskeptical

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This is called question begging and appeal to authority, both of which are fallacies.

We have measured the TWO-WAY speed of light, and "c" is how we've defined the result.

What we're trying to determine however, which has NOT been measured, EVER, is the ONE-WAY speed of light, from a source to the first object that the light encounters.
It gets complicates things when you have two opposing Poynting Vectors. "c" is also a rotational force in electricity, and may very well be electricity speed.

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#### Derf

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[Emily Litella] What's all this I hear about the speed of light? Why is nobody ever talking about the speed of heavy!!! [\Emily Litella]

(with apologies to Gilda Radner, rest her soul)
The preview doesn't work on TOL, so you have to click the link to see the speed of heavy.

#### ok doser

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The preview doesn't work on TOL, so you have to click the link to see the speed of heavy.

Back when I used to enjoy professional sports

#### Right Divider

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The speed of bouncing atomics. Since photons only have energy, and no mass, they don't really travel but are point-to-point. There is no proof that light has a lag time.
It is possible to measure the two way speed of light... and it's not instantaneous.

#### Omniskeptical

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It is possible to measure the two way speed of light... and it's not instantaneous.
You haven't studied Electromagnetics. There is no 2 way speed, and electricity has coincidently a speed limit of c.

#### Right Divider

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You haven't studied Electromagnetics.
My degree is in Electronic Engineering Technology.
There is no 2 way speed, and electricity has coincidently a speed limit of c.
Apparently you do not know what you're talking about.

#### Omniskeptical

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My degree is in Electronic Engineering Technology.

Apparently you do not know what you're talking about.
I have seen Engineering Electromagnetics books, you haven't. I also have this degree for whatever it is worth.

#### Right Divider

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I have seen Engineering Electromagnetics books, you haven't.
You claim knowledge that you do not have. You do not know what I know or do not know.
I also have this degree for whatever it is worth.
Again, it sounds like you do not even understand what is meant by "the 2 way speed of light".

#### Omniskeptical

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You claim knowledge that you do not have. You do not know what I know or do not know.

Again, it sounds like you do not even understand what is meant by "the 2 way speed of light".
That coming from a technician with a 4 year in Technical Management at best.

#### Right Divider

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That coming from a technician with a 4 year in Technical Management at best.
Mr. KnowItAll, you're not so smart. But your arrogance is off the charts.

#### Omniskeptical

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Mr. KnowItAll, you're not so smart. But your arrogance is off the charts.
Never try to reason with an irrational man, lest you stumble in what he is doing.

#### Right Divider

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Never try to reason with an irrational man, lest you stumble in what he is doing.
Thanks. I'll quit talking to you.

#### JudgeRightly

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Never try to reason with an irrational man, lest you stumble in what he is doing.

Beam, eye, remove it, hypocrite.

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The preview doesn't work on TOL, so you have to click the link to see the speed of heavy.
I blame you for an hour of wasted time. I watched the Fridge video and then there were several videos on Larry Bird's trash talking skills. As good of a basketball player as he was he was far better at trash talking. He knew just how to get into his opponent's head.

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