Self defense systems
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Buzzword
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"Elbows to throat, knees to groin, run" is a basic Krav Maga mantra.
I dunno why so many so many people advocate punching the chin, or anywhere on the skull.
The skull is designed to protect the brain, and has much more armor than the knuckle.
Every time you throw your unprotected fist at somebody's chin, you risk shattering your hand.
Especially in a real-world setting, where you can also easily miss or not land cleanly enough to put him down.
There's no reason for the vast majority of us to go for a single knockout punch in a real self-defense situation.
Just hit him somewhere vulnerable and easily targeted (again, throat or groin) and RUN.
Daniel1611
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The face is a great place to hit someone. Always hurts being hit in the face. If you ever been punched in the nose, you know how effective that can be. If you end up in a grappling situation, a choke hold is the best thing to do if possible. It takes anywhere from 1-5 seconds to knock out the average person with a choke hold. I've literally seen people knocked out instantly from practicing choke holds. I was never knocked out from practicing, but I know you have to tap out after a second because as soon as the hold is locked on you can feel yourself ready to go night night.
I am a student of nonviolence and have studied nonviolent communication.
I also worked for a time as a volunteer mediator for a nearby county.
Last Fourth of July I was able to confront and negotiate with a noisy and drunk gang of bikers who were setting off loud fireworks in the woods behind our house.
I did NOT come across as defensive, however. In my experience any defensiveness on my part only provokes the same on the other side. Collaborative problem-solving and negotiation then goes out the window.
Aikido is the only martial art that deals with an opponent without harming them. To me it is the closest thing to "turning the other cheek" that I have found.
There is both physical aikido in a dojo and then there is psychological aikido which can be used virtually everywhere.
http://www.amazon.com/Aikido-Everyd...373&sr=8-1&keywords=giving+in+to+get+your+way
There is both physical aikido in a dojo and then there is psychological aikido which can be used virtually everywhere.
http://www.amazon.com/Aikido-Everyd...373&sr=8-1&keywords=giving+in+to+get+your+way
I like Kempo Jujitsu and American boxing.
Just against an ogre friend of mine who wanted to try out his aikido techniques on me. He strained my wrist (both already broken before) because I was stupid enough to trust him not to.
We don't harm individuals when we train.
White belts can be tricky to train with because they don't move in predictable ways.
Everyone has a survival ability.
Whether or not someone is harmed, we should accept the truth that if our intention is not to harm, sometimes the effect of our good intentions DOES harm someone else. In that case, we definitely have harmed somewhat.
We have to be accepting, flexible and nimble whenever we encounter conflict. This means that instead of taking shelter in either giving in or fighting back, we should take advantage of the many other choices available to respond to conflict in more useful ways.
I agree. It might not be evident, but it can be brought out and encouraged when others do not use it or acknowledge it.
Haven't seen the movie. One of our senseis has a yearly camp where men stun gun themselves and expose themselves to a variety of harmful things to ensure that they can continue to fight under extreme circumstances. I don't personally stun gun myself. I think it'd probably knock me out and I'd unlikely get up anytime soon. :smack:
Certain strikes to a particular area of the leg for example can collapse an individual. We learn to attack bones, muscles, airways, etc. The same nerves and muscles we attack can be soothed when we are under no threat level--depends on whether you are friend or foe. :Clete:
I'm not sure what Aikido you practice but, I practiced aikido for years as well as living in Japan for a few years and aikido is absolutely devastating & harmful when applied properly. It is true that it is ineffective as a offensive art because it takes the opponent to initiate the first offensive move for the defensive reaction to come but, truly if you consider having a wrist, arm, collar bone, neck broken amongst other possible injuries being "not harmful" then I would wonder what aikido you practice. I gave up practicing aikido years back as my wrists just cannot deal with the abuse any more, as well as getting thrown just hurts much more after 50. :chuckle:
That happens all of the time. It's not ballet. I don't harm others when I train. If I get harmed, it's my own fault.
There is no end to learning. You can start young or old; you can jump in at any time and at any age. One man I trained with was a stoke victim. One side of his body was good for nothing but the other side of his body was like Popeye the sailor man!
Women in particular should take martial arts. Both of my kids trained.
The more years of training you have, the lease likely you are to have to use it by the way.
JosephR
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Yes the more you know about anatomy the more effective you will be, please or pain
The Berean
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Morihei Ueshiba was the founder of aikido and was developed to spread peace. You can still see old films of Ueshiba at his dojo, flinging a group of young men every which way.
I am sorry your experience of aikido was hurtful. Your experience sounds like Christianity.
Jesus was nonviolent, loving and believed in a god that did not play favorites and was passionate. Then Christianity came later and threw Jesus overboard and then turned into something otherworldly, bigoted, patriarchal and elitist.
The Berean
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Overgeneralize much?