Scriptures that Refute Calvinism

[Samie]

Wrong.

Scripture teaches predestination according to foreknowledge. 'Predetermination' is the Calvinist position you're disagreeing with.

Think of predestination like this, when you see a ship sail into the horizon, you cant see where it's destination is. But if you are lifted up, you can see beyond the horizon. Everybodys destination is hell without divine intervention to correct the course. It is God who intervenes according to foreknowledge, and alters the destination to a new course determined by God before the worlds were formed (Rom 8:29).

God Who shows no partiality, predestined all of Adam's race as His adopted children through Jesus (Eph 1:3-5), wrote all their names in the registry of heaven, the book of life, BUT only overcomers will not be blotted out from it (Rev 3:5).

For as long as one's name remains written in the book of life, he is heaven-bound (Rev 21:27). And people are born with their names written in the book of life. Only Christ can blot out one's name from there. And He will do this for those who in their lifetime chose to be overcome of evil instead of overcoming evil with good (Rom 12:21; Rev 3:5).

The good news is there is hope while alive, because it is only AFTER a person dies that judgment is rendered (Heb 9:27) whether to blot his name or not from the book of life. God waits for man throughout his lifetime to become overcomers of evil.

 

[Robert Pate]

If you mean that Jesus is the Savior of every single person who ever lived, you dont believe that either.

As far as God is concerned Jesus has defeated sin, death and the devil and has reconciled the world unto him, 2 Corintians 5:19.

You don't believe that do you?

 

[fishrovmen]

As far as God is concerned Jesus has defeated sin, death and the devil and has reconciled the world unto him, 2 Corintians 5:19.

You don't believe that do you?

Does this mean that Jesus is the Savior of every person who ever lived?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Wrong.

Scripture teaches predestination according to foreknowledge. 'Predetermination' is the Calvinist position you're disagreeing with.

Think of predestination like this, when you see a ship sail into the horizon, you cant see where it's destination is. But if you are lifted up, you can see beyond the horizon. Everybodys destination is hell without divine intervention to correct the course. It is God who intervenes according to foreknowledge, and alters the destination to a new course determined by God before the worlds were formed (Rom 8:29).

Bad analogy.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

You're going to have to come up with proof of this. There's nothing written in James that contradicts grace. Not in the slightest.
You are simply not able to understand James.

James was written to the scattered tribes of Israel, not to the Gentiles/Body of Christ.

 

[Robert Pate]

Does this mean that Jesus is the Savior of every person who ever lived?

Salvation has been provided for every one that has ever lived.

It is God's great free gift, Romans 5:18.

But it is not yours if you don't receive it, John 1:12.

 

[Brother Ducky]

Salvation has been provided for every one that has ever lived.

It is God's great free gift, Romans 5:18.

But it is not yours if you don't receive it, John 1:12.

So, Jesus is the potential Savior of the world, and the actual Savior of some certain persons?

 

[Robert Pate]

So, Jesus is the potential Savior of the world, and the actual Savior of some certain persons?

As far as God is concerned Jesus has defeated sin, death and the devil and is Lord, Acts 2:36.

And is the savior of those who receive him, John 1:12.

 

[Brother Ducky]

As far as God is concerned Jesus has defeated sin, death and the devil and is Lord, Acts 2:36.

And is the savior of those who receive him, John 1:12.

So the answer is yes, Jesus is sufficient for the salvation of all, but is the actual savior of some certain persons.

 

[Nanja]

And is the savior of those who receive him, John 1:12.

A person can only receive Him in a way that leads to Salvation after they have been given a New Nature, because scripture attests to the fact that that the natural man cannot discern Spiritual things.

1 Cor. 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.


Nor can the natural man do anything that can pleases God!

Rom. 8:8
So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.


John 3:27
John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.

Rom. 5:5
And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

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[Ask Mr. Religion]

As far as God is concerned Jesus has defeated sin, death and the devil and is Lord, Acts 2:36.

And is the savior of those who receive him, John 1:12.

So the answer is yes, Jesus is sufficient for the salvation of all, but is the actual savior of some certain persons.

Robert wants to say "yes", but is trying to determine how to get around saying so plainly.

Hopefully Robert will actually understand what this means.

AMR

 

[fishrovmen]

Salvation has been provided for every one that has ever lived.

It is God's great free gift, Romans 5:18.

But it is not yours if you don't receive it, John 1:12.

So I will now ask a THIRD time. Do YOU, Robert Pate, believe that Jesus is the Savior of every person who ever lived? Can you handle a yes or no question?

 

[Robert Pate]

So I will now ask a THIRD time. Do YOU, Robert Pate, believe that Jesus is the Savior of every person who ever lived? Can you handle a yes or no question?

Of course. Salvation has been provided for everyone, Hebrews 2:9.

All you have to do is receive it.