ECT Rightly Dividing
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achduke
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achduke said:
Both, In order to be Righteous it is by God through his Son. Acts 10:35 is God's righteousness, they are believers. Titus 3:5 is talking about self-righteous which is not righteous at all. We are only righteousness by his mercy and through his holy spirit and not by ourselves.
glorydaz
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This is exactly what so many people end up doing to make verses say the same thing. They tweak one or the other of them. :nono:
achduke
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achduke said:
both,
Believing, repenting, being baptized in Christ and receiving the Holy Spirit is the way we are saved.
By Grace through faith is the reason why we are saved.
achduke
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That is because they are two ways of saying the same thing. It is not our righteousness. It is God's righteousness! We can not save ourselves. Only God through his Son can save us. That is his mercy and grace.
achduke
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achduke said:
Both,
Do you not believe you can still willfully sin after receiving the truth?
Did not demas depart from the faith?
2 Timothy 4:10 for Demas has forsaken me, having loved this present world, and has departed for Thessalonica-- Crescens for Galatia, Titus for Dalmatia.
heir
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I sin everyday
He forsook Paul as in (2 Timothy 4:16 KJV); as in "dissembled", "carried away with their dissimulation" (Galatians 2:13 KJV) or "turned away from Paul" (2 Timothy 1:15 KJV). He departed unto Thessalonica (2 Timothy 4:10 KJV). Members of the Body of Christ are at risk for departing the faith by giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils (1 Timothy 4:1-2 KJV), but never will it cost us salvation (Ephesians 1:13-14 KJV), only reward (1 Corinthians 3:10-15 KJV, 2 Timothy 4:7 KJV). I protect myself by taking heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continuing in them. In doing this I both save thyself, and them that hear thee (1 Timothy 4:16 KJV from the bad doctrine).
Departing the faith for those in the Body is not the same as falling away (Hebrews 6:4-6 KJV)! To believe they are the same is a classic case of failure to 2 Timothy 2:15 KJV!
Where does it say, "Repent and be water baptized" in Ephesians 2:8?
Paul's Message to the gentiles was different that what Christ and His
Disciples taught. Because, there were two Gospels being preached.
The Kingdom Message to the Jews and the "Grace Message" to the
gentiles.
Disciples taught. Because, there were two Gospels being preached.
The Kingdom Message to the Jews and the "Grace Message" to the
gentiles.
achduke
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Does it matter? If you are baptized and receive the holy spirit and then the holy spirit leads you to get water baptized also then do so. If the holy spirit does not lead you to a water baptism then do not get it.
achduke
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It may have been different because the Jews needed some different information but salvation and being saved were the same. The Gentiles needed to learn some things the Jews already knew. On the other hand the Jews needed to unlearn(leaven) some things and also receive the mysteries that were kept secret since the foundation of the world.
You sure are convoluted.
achduke
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Everyone sins but there are sins that lead to death and some that do not. Unintentional sons are different from intentional sins.
achduke said:
Demas did something that Paul felt compelled to write about in his end days. Demas forsook a brother in Christ. He was not even willing to walk with him an extra mile. He did not want to leave the World. That is a sin like the rich man who would not leave everything and follow Christ.
Thanks for YOUR advice. However, would it be okay with
you if I continue to listen to the Apostle Paul instead of you?
Would that hurt your feelings?
achduke
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Same message two different audiences.
Have you EVER intentionally sinned?
achduke
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Does not hurt my feelings at all. I would still listen to the holy spirit if he leads you to something unless it goes against scripture then it is not the holy spirit.
ACH is very confused. He needs to read/study Paul's writings? (Romans through
Philemon.)
Philemon.)
achduke
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Did not say I have not. We can still ask for forgiveness. I strive to not sin. The holy spirit let's me know when I have sinned in my heart and in dreams.
There's ONLY one baptism today in this "Dispensation of Grace." The
Holy Spirit's baptism into the Body of Christ.