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[chrysostom]

:rotfl: Like that makes any difference.

not to you
and
many other idiots on this forum

 

[drbrumley]

not to you
and
many other idiots on this forum

Knight isn't well reasoned? Rocketman and a whole bunch of us who see thru this charade are idiots now in your book?

I have a reason for mistrust. History shows over and over again Republicans trashing the Constitution like its toilet paper. Along with thier political buddies the democrats. You need to get out more instead of being the hack you are right now

 

[chrysostom]

Knight isn't well reasoned? Rocketman and a whole bunch of us who see thru this charade are idiots now in your book?

I have a reason for mistrust. History shows over and over again Republicans trashing the Constitution like its toilet paper. Along with thier political buddies the democrats. You need to get out more instead of being the hack you are right now

the truth is you have no other place to go
if
you are what you say you are
and
I can't believe that

 

[Town Heretic]

not to you
and
many other idiots on this forum

See, everyone has a button that can bring on the odd name calling. It should get easier to not respond though if it's pushed often enough. So there's a mixed blessing in it.

 

[Tambora]

It's the whole article...
Mudgeon at the Bat
Righteousness Most Compelled

By Fred Reed
October 15, 2013
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The curious affair of Fred Mudgeon began in 2015 when he, age 67 and largely blind, walked onto the field of the Washington Miquetoasts, the capital’s football team, and announced that he wanted to try out for quarterback. If ever there was an unlikely prospect for quarterback of an NFL franchise, it was Fred Mudgeon.

However, it was a difficult time for the Toasties, as fans called the team. Formerly the Washington Redskins, they had changed their name under political pressure from those who found the name offensive to Indians. This did not include the Indians, who were uninterested in the matter. The lefties of Washington were going to protect the Native Peoples from being insulted, even though nobody was insulting them and the Indians themselves had other things on their minds. You can’t be too careful about these matters.

Besides, conservatives supported the demand for a new name, arguing that it was humiliating that a former superpower should name its team after Stone Age savages who had never invented so much as a smartphone. Debate raged. Macho names, like “the Shrapnel” or the more-descriptive “Washington Felons,” were rejected as being too candid. “The Supermen” would be hurtful to women and the biceps-challenged. Something uniting was desired, something to bring us all together.

It came down to the “Washington Petals” or “the Milquetoasts,” which latter was chosen as being more non-threatening. Republicans objected to “Milquetoasts,” saying the “milque” was French, and wanted to call the team the “Liberty Toasties,” but it didn’t catch on.

Press attention grew when it was discovered that Fred Mudgeon was descended from Richard Coeur de Mudgeon, a hero of the Third Crusade. Mudgeon’s august ancestor had fought against Salad Al Din, a Moslem Kurd who eventually defeated the Christians. Salad then invaded Southeast Asia, where he was unexpectedly killed and cannibalized by a band of crazed British women pirates led by Mary of Warwick. (Thus “Mary, Mary, quite contrary, eating her Kurds in Hue.”)

The Toasties’ coach, Heftus Packer, took one look at Mudgeon and said, “Giddowdahere. What are you, nuts?”

Mudgeon sued.

His lawyers, from the noted K Street firm of Linger, Loyter, Daudle, and Phumble, demanded that the Toasties produce a list of their requirements for quarterback. They did. It included such things as running speed, reflexes, a good throwing arm, accuracy in passing, and physical toughness. Mudgeon, said Heftus Packer, had none of these.

Actually what Packer said was, “I don’t need some fossilized half-cripple with them thick glasses so he looks like a damn bug.” For this he was charged with a hate crime.

Mudgeon’s lawyer, Priscilla Wang-Waver, said, “Mr. Mudgeon is not unable or disabled. He is just differently abled. To imply that he is of less worth as a person because of purely physical qualities is shockingly insensitive.” She filed a complaint of ageism, physicalism, and blindism under the Protection of the Incapable legislation, often called the Potty Act. This had passed Congress the year before to prevent massive firings of federal employees.

Ms. Wang-Waver asserted that the Act required the Toasties to make the game more “accessible and friendly” to the differently abled. “Justice doesn’t allow discrimination against people simply because they cannot play football. How many can? On this team there are no gay, women, lesbian, bifurcated, or transaxle players. This is no accident.”

A start toward justice, she said, would be to limit players to a walk and to allow canes on the field. She further thought that physical contact should be disallowed. The game should be more empathic and human instead of competitive, which “leaves some players with low self-esteem.”

From his holding cell, Coach Heftus Packer said, “Caring? Caring? I’ve got a metal detector so these guys don’t take crow bars onto the field. They don’t know from caring.”

The case began to attract national attention. In California, US Senator Barbara Steinboxer-Mowgli opined, “My staff has done some research, and they inform me that football involves violence. This is not a message that we should be sending to our children. We should make football into a cooperative game led by a caring adult. I will introduce legislation to do this.”

Panic ensued in the world of sports. The National Hockey League applied en bloc for Canadian citizenship. The World Wrestling Association asked preemptively for a waiver, saying that pro wrestling was essentially a dance routine.

Worse was to come. Ms. Steinboxer-Mowgli issued a press release, stating “I have just attended a baseball game, and was appalled. I witnessed a huge—ugh!—man violently hitting a ball with a stick. Yes, you may say, it’s just a ball. But in his mind it is a woman. After he hits it, another player picks it up and throws it as hard as he can at the first-base person, who has to protect himself or herself with a sort of glove-thingy. It is worse than dodge ball. And children watch this, and imitate it.”

The legal wrangling went on for several years. It finally reached the Supreme Court as Mudgeon vs Toasties. The Court took jurisdiction under the Commerce Clause, since Mudgeon had been born in West Virginia and and sometimes telephoned his mother in Wheeling, thus engaging in interstate commerce. Two of the justices recused themselves on the grounds that they had Alzheimer’s and couldn’t remember what the case was about. Cynics weren’t sure why it mattered.

In any event, the remaining seven justices ruled that under the Fourteenth Amendment, Mudgeon’s constitutional right to play football had been violated.

The Toasties’ attorney said he couldn’t see what the Amendment had to do with the case. Speaking for the majority, which was all of them, recently-appointed Justice Amantha Molotov-Ribbentrop said, “The Fourteenth Amendment in its majestic sway folds everything into a broad ambit.”

In its concision and clarity, this was held by MSNBC to be “a very model of what the Constitution is for.” The Toasties were ordered to instate Mudgeon as quarterback. All in the legal profession agreed that, post Toasties, nothing would be the same. They were right. The American system had again functioned.

Finally Mudgeon got his chance. He was helped onto the field to face the Denver Mares (they too had been ordered to change their name from the unnecessarily masculinist, violent-sounding Broncos.) On his first play Mudgeon handed off to a walking back who ambled down the field behind the inoffensive linepersons, avoiding discourteous contact. Since the walking back was female, as prescribed gender equity, men could not tackle her thanks to the Violence Against Women Act.

On the Mares’ three-yard line, Mudgeon threw a Hail Mary (or Joseph) pass, which was accounted a touchdown as it wasn’t fair to penalize a largely blind quarterback for his physical infirmities. Then….

I need a drink.

Ha!

I heard the Olympics should change the name of an event from "Broad Jump" to "Person Jump", as to not offend women.
hehe!

 

[Skybringr]

This isn't a "liberal" issue, doc, it's about getting with the times. The word's crude...at best.

Being belligerently politically correct?

Getting with the times is more like sabotaging common sense and being a liberal nut, finding problems where there are none.

Who's thinking it's offensive? I'll tell you- everybody except the Native Americans.
~liberal nuts~

 

[rexlunae]

Being belligerently politically correct?

Getting with the times is more like sabotaging common sense and being a liberal nut, finding problems where there are none.

Who's thinking it's offensive? I'll tell you- everybody except the Native Americans.
~liberal nuts~

The problem with that logic is that the case was brought by seven Native Americans.

 

[resurrected]

The problem with that logic is that the case was brought by seven Native Americans redskins.

 

[whitestone]

and see thats what I like about America,,"everyone gets carried away with the small things and no one snaps to capitalize on the on the new T-shirts,hats,ect. for the Washington One world governments,,,,

 

[Town Heretic]

Being belligerently politically correct?

Getting with the times is more like sabotaging common sense and being a liberal nut, finding problems where there are none.

Who's thinking it's offensive? I'll tell you- everybody except the Native Americans.
~liberal nuts~

Native Americans take NFL Redskins name-change campaign to Washington

"The Washington team's name is a painful racial epithet first used against my people when we were held at gunpoint; it is a word that tells our children that they are second-class citizens.” Ray Halbritter, representative to the conference from the Oneida Indian Nation

“This word is an insult that is mean, rude and impolite, and we would like you stop using it just as children stop using something that is impolite.” Kevin Gover, director of the National Museum of the American Indian

The latest legal victory was spearheaded by Native American activist Suzan Harjo.

"Suzan has been fighting this since 1992. Native American people have been fighting this since 1972." Amanda Blackhorse

Now I doubt very much that the majority of Washington fans mean to insult Native Americans. I doubt the team's owner wants to, but that's what he's doing to many and that's the nature of the term. It's time to put away a childish thing.

 

[rexlunae]

Like clockwork...

 

[whitestone]

blah,blah,blah,,,the animal atavist show commercials about dogs and cats,,,but nobody defends the cows and chickens,,,and they are slain by the millions,,,we should start a movement to save the plants,,,that is the vegetarians are mowing them down,,,,

p.s. ,,,Oooops I said "mowing,,,not as a pun,,maybe they are snapping them off",,,

 

[Skybringr]

Native Americans take NFL Redskins name-change campaign to Washington

"The Washington team's name is a painful racial epithet first used against my people when we were held at gunpoint; it is a word that tells our children that they are second-class citizens.” Ray Halbritter, representative to the conference from the Oneida Indian Nation

“This word is an insult that is mean, rude and impolite, and we would like you stop using it just as children stop using something that is impolite.” Kevin Gover, director of the National Museum of the American Indian

The latest legal victory was spearheaded by Native American activist Suzan Harjo.

"Suzan has been fighting this since 1992. Native American people have been fighting this since 1972." Amanda Blackhorse

Now I doubt very much that the majority of Washington fans mean to insult Native Americans. I doubt the team's owner wants to, but that's what he's doing to many and that's the nature of the term. It's time to put away a childish thing.

Funny how they are magically offended after it being around for 80 years.

All those Native American Redskins fans must be pretty confused about the discrimination they have been told they feel.


I remember when the NAACP tried to sue Hallmark because of a card that was allegedly racist. Specialty groups just go looking to stir up an issue out of nothing.

 

[Town Heretic]

Funny how they are magically offended after it being around for 80 years.

Not funny at all and they've been fighting this for decades. The first time they launched a patent fight was in 72. Why so late? Because prior to the Civil Rights Movement and subsequent acts they didn't stand a chance.

All those Native American Redskins fans must be pretty confused about the discrimination they have been told they feel.

Straw man. You don't have to be a bigot to cheer, "Go Redskins!" You just have to be ignorant of the hurt you cause and what you're advancing for many when you do. I know I did that for a long time. I used the name with no thought to that and with no intended or understood disrespect. I thought of it as a fierce name. But then, I'm not Native American. I'm a guy who grew up watching John Wayne kill six "redskins" with a shot or two.

I remember when the NAACP tried to sue Hallmark because of a card that was allegedly racist. Specialty groups just go looking to stir up an issue out of nothing.

This isn't nothing. I wish Snyder would meet with the Native American councils and come up with a way to sustain an association that all parties can agree honors the people represented by the team.

I suspect that will happen one day and the then owner will reap the profits from that as well.

 

[ebenz47037]

They ought to change the team's name to the Squaws, just to shut the politically correct crowd up.

 

[fool]

Can't they just change the logo to a potato and move on?

 

[Skybringr]

Can't they just change the logo to a potato and move on?

Mr. Potato Heads would go on strike

 

[Lon]

At the very least, it's a crude, distasteful nickname. It should've been changed by now and it seems inevitable that eventually it will be.

:nono: I'm not full blackfoot, but I've a quarter. There is no such thing as bad press, only bad intent. I was never offended by the honor of a team choosing to represent the indian nation. "Indian" isn't offensive either. My redskin seems a bit thicker, even only being a quarter of the thickness. If I were black, I'd be a proud black and would let no other race give offense. Whatever God made me, He intended. End of story, you cannot offend me for being what I am as God intended. I'll take 'savage' over 'white-Milquetoast' any day.

 

[Damian]

Change your "stage" name, "Damian." It is disparging, and an insult, to all of the Damien's/antichrist's of the world:

I think Cleveland's baseball team should also change their nickname. "Indians" is a politically incorrect monicker. And while we're at it, the state of Indiana and the city of Indianapolis should also change their names for the same reason.

 

[The Berean]

I think Cleveland's baseball team should also change their nickname. "Indians" is a politically incorrect monicker. And while we're at it, the state of Indiana and the city of Indianapolis should also change their names for the same reason.

And don't forget the town on Indio, CA. "Indio" is Spanish for Indian. :think: