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You lie about what I say, and you do other false things that a person of God would not do.
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You lie about what I say, and you do other false things that a person of God would not do.
Matt 23: 6They love the places of honor at banquets, the chief seats in the synagogues, 7the greetings in the marketplaces, and the title of ‘Rabbi’ by which they are addressed.8But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers.…
You really do struggle with reading comprehension. He compares those that do enjoy being called Rabbi to His own which He instructs are NOT to be called Rabbi...
Judea did not have a wall around it with gates that closed on Sabbath...
your another gospel another christ is quite creative in its rebellion from Him His Way...too MAD so sad...
You’ve demonstrated you can not read scripture and certainly not without reading into it...no surprise you do the same with common posts...
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That is just more of your lies about me.
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Are you saying the apostles would enjoy being called 'rabbi' and that is why they can't be called that?
You are an embarrassment.
It is you who struggles.
You see where Jesus says a person should not be called 'rabbi'---so why are you calling someone 'rabbi'?
Do you think Judaea is the only place that was destroyed? The temple was destroyed too and those who lived in Jerusalem were killed.
again...read the text...Yahushua noted men who were teachers and called rabbis and enjoyed it...and then instructed His men who would also teach that they should NOT allow themselves to be called rabbis...”for you have One Teacher and are all brothers”
again read the text...Yahushua noted men who were teachers and called rabbis and enjoyed it...and then instructed His men who would also teach that they should NOT allow themselves to be called rabbis “for you have One Teacher and are all brothers”...
LOL...WHAT? the temple was WUT?!!!! And people in Jerusalem KILLED?!!! That happened in Judea?!!
But I thought Jesus instructed them to pray they would be saved...RAPTURED even...and for the temple to be spared...? RIGHT?
Oh wait no...”Pray your flight be not on a Sabbath”...hmmmm...you mean “RUN TO THE HILLS!!!” is NOT a Holy rest?
LOL
So it wasnt only men of Judea but Jerusalem too?
as if the Romans attack ONLY ON THE SABBATH...LOL
Rome began to show up in 66 AD and most believers left then.
And then even this:
“Even in the midst of the Roman siege (April – September 70 AD), there were Jews who found safety when they escaped to the Romans, as “Titus let a great number of them go away into the country, whither they pleased” (Wars 5.10.1). Later in the siege Josephus said this:
“Many also of the other nobility went over to the Romans, together with the high priests. Now Caesar not only received these men very kindly in other respects, but, knowing they would not willingly live after the customs of other nations, he sent them to Gophna, and desired them to remain there for the present, and told them, that when he was gotten clear of this war, he would restore each of them to their possessions again; so they cheerfully retired to that small city which was allotted them, without fear of any danger” (Wars 6.2.2).
Although many Christians apparently left Jerusalem before the war began, it’s possible that some didn’t heed Jesus’ warning to flee (Matthew 24:15-20, Mark 13:14-18, Luke 21:20-23) and perished. It’s also possible that others stayed, endured great difficulties, and managed to flee later.
https://adammaarschalk.com/2017/01/2...flee-to-pella/
Jerusalem attacked for years and underseige for months...but only closes its doors on Sabbath...LOL
“‘Pray your flight be not on the Sabbath’ yessir General Titus...that’s what Matthew writes here in his gospel...I advise we not attack on Sabbaths and strike on Fridays or Sundays”...LOL
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You called someone a 'rabbi'. You sin when you go against Jesus.
You need to go study. The temple was in Jerusalem and Jerusalem is a city in the kingdom of Judea.
Jesus said the earthly temple would be destroyed.
You are now making fun of your retarded beliefs and forgot?
What a mess.
For weeks and pages now you have been stiff-necked in your idolatrous rebellion of “EVERY day is Holy...nothing defiles”...as if this false witness of Jews was true “Jesus changed the customs of Moses”...you had plenty of help though your golden calf to make...
You ADD to the word as did Jimmy the king...
Please note:
This is in James' mouth in Acts 15:24. This makes it appear James said the Law does not apply at all to Gentiles. The KJV has it that James says some have tried "subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment." (Act 15:24.) However, the ASV, ESV, [ISV, Holman, Douay], NIV correctly omits "ye must be circumcised and keep the law," saying instead some tried "subverting your souls; to whom we gave no commandment." [See Bible Hub of each version.]
Why did the King James Version add the above bolded words?
The UBS' Greek New Testament (4th Ed [2006]) says this entire phrase first appears in the miniscule 1175 (pg. 476), which dates from the Tenth Century A.D. (pg. 17). [See also this link on 10th Century as the correct date.] The phrase "keep the Law" first appears in quotations of Acts 15:24 in the Apostolic Constitutions [allegedly in 6:64] and in the writings of Amphilochius (pg. 467). Amphilochius died "after 394," and this copy of the Apostolic Constitutions [6:64] is dated to "about 380" (pg. 31.) All the earlier versions of Constitutions [see CCEL version lacks 6:64] and the NT, [including the Latin Vulgate commissioned in 382 AD], omit both changes to Acts 15:24.
https://www.jesuswordsonly.com/recom...h-century.html
“[saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law] The oldest authorities omit the Greek of these words, which look somewhat like a marginal explanation that has crept into the text, especially as “to keep the law” is an expansion, though of course a correct one, of the statement made in Acts 15:1, about the teaching that was given. There circumcision alone is mentioned as the point on which disturbance was created.”
https://biblehub.com/commentaries/acts/15-24.htm
And now also look what King Jimmy did:
From this
Acts 21:24Takethese men,purify yourselfalong withthem,andpay their expensessothey can have theirheadsshaved.Theneveryonewill knowthatthereis no truthto theserumorsaboutyou,but thatyoualsolivein obedienceto theLaw. 25As for the Gentile believers, we have written to them our decision that they must abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals, and from sexual immorality.
He ADDED
Acts 21:24Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law. 25 As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication.
Read for yourself the Greek.
https://biblehub.com/acts/21-25.htm
Please stop with your idolatry of ascribing to all days what was given to one to set it apart sanctify it make it Holy...as a reminder to Him
oh and your “we can eat cats rats bats and wombats” even Peter disagrees with you...as did the entire Jerusalem council in Acts 15 as not offering a swine would not make it clean to eat...or draining a dog of its blood would NOT make it clean to eat...or strangling a bat...
Imagine if china ate only clean meats only cleanly...you wouldnt have to worry about bird or swine or bat flu...LOL
BTW—“things strangled” derived from choking or suffocating loss of breath...so a dead carcass not known how it lost its breath by mauled by animals or old age was in this catagory...also made foreigners unclean and already in the OT...
But NOOOO...insist another gospel another christ...the false witness of Jews who claimed “Jesus changed the customs Moses delivered us”...so MAD you are at the Sabbath...a day off...made for Man...
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You are the idolatrous one that makes a day your Lord and King.
You don't know you are evil telling a child of God that they are condemned because your idolatrous Sabbath rule?
Who is Jimmy the king? You prove constantly that you are a lost puppy.
You are going deeper in the pit.
You are a speaker of untruths.
No one has to look to another language to know God's Truth.
As for knowing God and the scriptures, you might as well be as a mentally retarded person.
a 24 hour period of time can NOT be a PERSON much less a Lord of King...now there STILL IS a Lord of the Sabbath Who taught the Sabbath was for man...even in Exodus for the stranger...and you are strange but sadly not unique...
this Lord of the Sabbath taught and demonstrated the Sabbath and still ministers the GOOD THINGS TO COME...
would I be evil in correcting one who claimed to love Jesus but insisted on stealing...or continued murdering...or constant lying?...
or would I be evil correcting someone who claims to worship God but bows down to a golden calf and prays at it?
would I be evil telling a child of God that the constant sexual perversions they participated in needed to stop?
you call evil good and good evil...do not enter the kingdom and keep others from it...cause stumbling...steal reward with fancy LOL talk...
James a king in England...heard about him? Had the Bible translated...
Jimmy is a nickname for James...itself from the Hebrew Jacob...which means to supplant...the irony as King Jimmy did just that...supplanted the Word...and may still deprive you of your rights...to Sabbath...
Also ironic you wish to preserve Jimmy’s name and title and yet NOT your Lord of the Sabbath...
I am a sheep...not puppy...you are the dog returning to your own vomit...He is my shepherd...is WHY I follow Him...as best I can...you? You return to something that came out of you...and defiling...another irony
treasure in here dug in deep covered by a lot of satanic lies like “NOT FOR ME”...gonna buy the whole field
not my fault the truth is buried so deep...
...Jimmy’s translators sure did...without them the WHOLE bible would be your “NOT FOR ME” ...LOL
Something Roman Catholics would agree with you on...yet another irony...the Bible “not for you” as how dare you demand to read it yourself in your own language and think to interpret it yourself...
I must confess seeing what you do to it...I am beginning to see their point...
glad the moderators are entertained by your circus of ad Homs and not politically correct enough to censor your abuse of the handicap...lol
yup like they like to have done
nope cuz He said "But be not ye called Rabbi" that's how King Jimmy's boys wrote it...
its old English I know...but you should be all the more able to read it...
yup instead I am here trying to help you out of a "Every day is Holy...eat whatever" ditch
good...thanks for that...
yup and that is WHY He instructed prayers be said that the Sabbath would still be kept...
and NOT prayers people to be preserved or RAPTURED or even that the temple would be spared...NOPE just that the Sabbath be a day of rest and NOT a day of "RUN TO THE HILLS!!!!" panic...
He knew the times of trouble were coming in the future and that it would cover ALL OF JUDEA and that the entire operation would last a long long time...NOT JUST ON ONE DAY
you really really think He didn't know the Jews would close their gates on a Friday or Sunday or any other day while during a siege? LOL
nope...still laughing at the idea that Yahushua did NOT know that Romans attack on other days too...
"NO NO MOISHE...just because we are under attack this Monday does not mean we close the city gates...we ONLY close them on Sabbath...so to keep Christians from escaping on the Sabbath..." LOL
yes it was...for months and YEARS every day...but the Sabbath was still to be kept
but you wouldn't know cuz you don't read history or military strategy or scripture but your own ideas that "Sabbath is every day"
hey...so according to you the gates would be closed EVERY day...LOL...Christians could NEVER FLEE...especially during a Roman siege...and would ALL BE KILLED...
clap clap clap...good job...you just destroyed the first century believers...
LOL...you are fun...
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If you are not saved, then Jesus saving you is where the good things to come will happen for you.
You are evil when you claim that is what I do.
You are the one who tries to put people in obedience to a day instead of to Christ.
So you speak evil of the person who had the Bible written in English?
You are every foul thing you have said I am.
You found ear ticklers false teachings to believe in.
I know someone diagnosed as mentally retarded, and he can no more make sense of the things of God, just like you can't. He will not be held accountable one day, but you will.
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You make up evil things about me, which show you have an evil imagination.
You say the scripture says pray that the Sabbath is kept. You need to prove the scripture says that; but you cannot ever do that.
You say you preach we are to follow the rules of the Sabbath, but that you don't do what God says not to do on the Sabbath. That makes you a hypocrite.
You claim that you teach to observe the Sabbath even though you don't obey the rules for the Sabbath but at least you are in the game, you say. You don't know that if you don’t obey the rules of the game you are disqualified.
You sin against Jesus by calling men ‘rabbi’.
You didn't know that Jerusalem is a city in the kingdom of Judea, and you called me names and laughed at me for speaking of it as being in Judea.
My friend, one is either a believer in the limited God, or the manifold God.
The limited God is the one who has horizons from the koine horizo.
The manifold God is the One with many colored poiklos horizons cascading into the much varied dimension of polupoikilos..
https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/nation/2016/06/23/86294080/
so for you no more good to come? No more spreading the good news...overcoming until the end...sleeping in Him...waking up TO HIM glorified (His Spirit infused)bodies of flesh and blood putting on immortality...returning with Him to Sukkot in temporary places He prepared for us for a 1000 years...returning here to our permanent home WITH HIM...forever?
You do NOT correct on that Law.
You do teach “thou shalt not steal” and may teach WHAT stealing is HOW not to steal and WHY
You do teach “thou shalt not commit adultery” and may teach WHAT adultery is HOW not to do it and WHY
You do teach “thou shalt not kill” and may teach WHAT killing is HOW not to do it and WHY
You DO NOT teach “work six days keep the seventh day Holy” and so MAY NOT teach WHAT the Sabbath is HOW to keep it or WHY...
You do not teach Him HIS WAY...
Ironically CHRIST HIMSELF tried to put people in obedience to a day and instead MOST reject Him HIS WAY
Criticizing his translation is NOT evil but NECESSARY...if there is any discrepancies they should be noted...and if they be in error or by design...
If the first then forgiven but if the latter...that is evil.
Would you have Jimmy assist your being deprived of your reward?
judge me AS I have judged...
I aim to teach as Paul did: the way of righteousness, self control, and judgement to come...
You teach do whatever whenever...all is now good Holy and clean...
Which do you think tickles the world’s ears?
One is a narrow path for a reason...not many travel it...
Here I stand so help me Yah...apart from you your “every day is Holy...nothing can defile me”
if the shoe fits...
At least I dont make up golden calves for false worship like “EVERY day is Holy rest every day...nothing makes you unclean”
Matt 24:20 “Pray that your flight be not...on the Sabbath” there it is plain and simple...because He knew the future Roman siege would be months long and years in the making...and running to the hills on the Sabbath is NOT resting...
I gave you historical evidence Titus allowed people to flee for months prior his attacks...
Here read it again:
“Even in the midst of the Roman siege (April – September 70 AD), there were Jews who found safety when they escaped to the Romans, as “Titus let a great number of them go away into the country, whither they pleased” (Wars 5.10.1). Later in the siege Josephus said this:
“Many also of the other nobility went over to the Romans, together with the high priests. Now Caesar not only received these men very kindly in other respects, but, knowing they would not willingly live after the customs of other nations, he sent them to Gophna, and desired them to remain there for the present, and told them, that when he was gotten clear of this war, he would restore each of them to their possessions again; so they cheerfully retired to that small city which was allotted them, without fear of any danger” (Wars 6.2.2).
Although many Christians apparently left Jerusalem before the war began, it’s possible that some didn’t heed Jesus’ warning to flee (Matthew 24:15-20, Mark 13:14-18, Luke 21:20-23) and perished. It’s also possible that others stayed, endured great difficulties, and managed to flee later.
https://adammaarschalk.com/2017/01/2...flee-to-pella/
You really do think the gates were closed ONLY on the Sabbath during a months long siege...LOL
I say we are to work six days rest on the seventh day and keep the day Holy set apart from the other days and sanctified...I have not said HOW...doing as He did following Him His ways is a start...
I say we are to work six days rest of the seventh day and keep the day Holy set apart from the other days and sanctified...I have NOT said HOW...
He acknowledged men enjoyed being called rabbis...only instructed that His Own should NOT allow themselves to be CALLED rabbi...He said nothing about calling others rabbi...
LOL...what I didnt know is if you knew truth...thanks for that...
what I laughed at was you thinking Rome would only attack on the Sabbath causing them to flee on the Sabbath and finding the gates locked...is ok I have heard this argument many times...still funny...
What is NOT funny is you rejecting something set apart and sanctified and Holy and claiming ALL other days are Holy...and nothing defiles a person
Do you recall the rebellion of Korah? How did it begin?
Numbers 16:3 “They came together against Moses and Aaron and told them, “You have gone too far! Everyone in the entire congregation is holy, and the LORD is in their midst. Why then do you exalt yourselves above the assembly of the LORD?”
Korah here in Numbers claims ALL the congregation is Holy and rejects Him His Way of heirarchy...
Like Satan who esteemed himself like God...rejected Him His Way that One had a heirarchy...
Like Eve who equated all fruit from ALL trees as edible...rejected Him His way that one tree was set apart NOT to be eaten...
And now here you are trying to make all days Holy and reject Him His Way of setting apart the seventh day and sanctifiying it and making it Holy...
but NOOOO you rebel and wish to make holy that which is NOT...that is idolatry...and to make clean what is not...as if swine was clean to eat...
You make for yourself and teach to others another gospel another christ...MAD at the Sabbath and claim it “not dispensed to me” despite His teaching it was made for Man...for whosoever believeth...
is why Paul taught Romans to establish this Law...
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I am not in the mood to read this tripe, maybe later.
you sure are moody for somebody resting all day every day...LOL
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It's not as you say. That is your fictional story.
Fiction eh?
Do you want some good fiction?
How about this:
“The law was a shadow and was done away with...
...all days are holy eat whatever you want”
Pretty good eh? But shhhh...
Don’t tell anyone because most think it’s true
I think it’s a plagiarism
From what Jews said:
That Jesus changed the customs Moses delivered...