Police Behavior Irrelevant to Black Rage

aikido7

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Because of course they cannot possibly teach their children morals, get educated and move out of them.

You extreme liberals are who bottle them up, you teach them they cannot do any better and that everything is someone elses fault, easy to see why someone would have no hope since you nuts are teaching them there is nothing for them to hope for.
It's no one's "fault" if liberals would do any thinking at all. Every problem has many causes. Thinking that "A" leads to "B" and causes "C" is a bankrupt notion of the 19th century.

I have learned that teaching children morals from television, opinion or interpretation is rarely successful.

Just because we may think we are engaging in moral teaching with our children does not mean we will be successful in doing so.
Kids need to be cared for, respected and treated fairly. Many of today's "family values" are actually not very helpful.

This, I believe, is the main reason Jesus made so many savage attacks on the family values of his day--and did so very, very often.
 

Angel4Truth

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Overall I agree. Where I disagree is more what is not included, the white liberals who tell blacks they do not have to be 'like whitey', meaning they do not need to adhere to the respected Middle Class values, so essential to a better life in the USA.

Blacks tell other blacks that too and want to keep down those who aspire to a better life.
 

TulipBee

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How does a 95% white town turn into a 95% black town in 10-20 years? How is that not racism? Perhaps we will always behave like insects and animals where they group.
 

gcthomas

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How does a 95% white town turn into a 95% black town in 10-20 years? How is that not racism? Perhaps we will always behave like insects and animals where they group.

The power of the free market. Once a district gets a reputation for being a poor area, the house rents drop and no middle class person will rent there. The poor, who get priced out of the gentrified areas have no choice but to move to the poor area.

It is the reason that new housing projects here are required to have a mix of cheap and expensive housing to keep a healthy mix of people from different income brackets, and so preventing the place becoming an unhealthy monoculture. Separated mono-cultures just breed distrust and resentment, along with civil unrest.
 

Granite

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...stated "The Armchair Quarterback"....

Funny how the people here who go long and loud about "freedom" and "liberty" are the ones who consistently side with militarized cops and don't say a word about police brutality.
 

gcthomas

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Funny how the people here who go long and loud about "freedom" and "liberty" are the ones who consistently side with militarized cops and don't say a word about police brutality.

They don't want freedom and liberty for the poor blacks. They only want it for themselves. Equality and fraternity is their enemy.
 

Angel4Truth

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Funny how the people here who go long and loud about "freedom" and "liberty" are the ones who consistently side with militarized cops and don't say a word about police brutality.

Yep that happens, not sure why you believe no one believes that, but

its funny how the libbies keep picking the wrong cases to prove that where they add racism to where racism doesnt exist, which shows them the real racists.

This one is far from it.
 

bybee

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Funny how the people here who go long and loud about "freedom" and "liberty" are the ones who consistently side with militarized cops and don't say a word about police brutality.

A word about police brutality, it needs to be investigated and punished when warranted. The way in which police are trained and prepared for the job needs to be reviewed regularly.
But I believe the citizens have a responsibility to obey the law.
 

gcthomas

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Ah, the nebulous, nasty "they"!
Not like wonderful you....

Not a nebulous they, but specifically those who blame 'blacks' for their own socioeconomic problems without accepting their own culpability in the social arrangements that are the ultimate causes.
 

Granite

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A word about police brutality, it needs to be investigated and punished when warranted. The way in which police are trained and prepared for the job needs to be reviewed regularly.
But I believe the citizens have a responsibility to obey the law.

Reviewed by who? And what would you say finally "warrants" investigation and punishment? When it comes to punishment, are you talking jail time?
 

bybee

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Reviewed by who? And what would you say finally "warrants" investigation and punishment? When it comes to punishment, are you talking jail time?

Cities have councils, right? The Police answer to the Mayor, right?
The Mayor answers to the will of the people, wrong! The Mayor only answers to the will of the people when an overwhelming reaction occurs!
There have been overwhelming reactions to the use of an illegal choke hold on a fellow who was hustling to make a few bucks.
A citizen ought not to die for such a misdemeanor!
Therefore, oh crabby one,
The city Commissioners need to appoint a panel to set up the guidelines for police response and behavior in the course of performing their almost thankless and dangerous duty!!!
It is call "Policies and Procedures" and "Job Descriptions".
 

Granite

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Cities have councils, right? The Police answer to the Mayor, right?

Uh, no, not really. At least, not always. Often they answer to their chief who may answer to a police board and or commissioner. Depends on the town. And keep in mind mayors are loathe to antagonize police departments and city prosecutors...

The Mayor answers to the will of the people, wrong! The Mayor only answers to the will of the people when an overwhelming reaction occurs!

Uh, okay? All I did were ask some questions to clarify what you meant. You decided to go into hysterics instead. Maybe switch to decaf, sweetheart.

There have been overwhelming reactions to the use of an illegal choke hold on a fellow who was hustling to make a few bucks.
A citizen ought not to die for such a misdemeanor!

Agreed. And nothing's going to happen to the punk bully who killed Eric Garner, so, obviously something needs to give.

The city Commissioners need to appoint a panel to set up the guidelines for police response and behavior in the course of performing their almost thankless and dangerous duty!!!

So you're in favor of civilian oversight. Great. Answer me this: Why do so many police departments oppose it?
 

genuineoriginal

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It is a wonder how you can be surprised when you bottle up blacks in underresourced no-hope ghettos and have white cops shooting kids that you get a little kickback every now and again. :idunno:
First you blame everyone outside the culture that produces these degenerates.
So you don't think society has any actual effect on the growth of children beyond what parents tell them? Really? If children get dragged into a gang culture or anti-intellectual culture before they are old enough to make real moral decisions, then it is their own fault?

Individuals cannot easily change the culture they live in, and it is unjust to blame individuals for the failings of the wider culture. Just as you are bound so strongly by your own culture that you can't change the less moral aspects of it, such as the strongly implied racism of your comments, that you feel the need to rationalise away the injustices you see around you.
Then you claim the degenerates are not at fault and can't change how they are.

Next you will be telling us that the cause of their antisocial behavior is genetic.
 
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