Pluto Overshadows Iran and even the Abortion Cover-Up

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Pluto Overshadows Iran and even the Abortion Cover-Up

This is the show from Wednesday July 15th, 2015

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When NASA said that their Hubble deep-field image would look at the farthest galaxies that have ever been photographed, they predicted we were going to see all infant galaxies because the light left those galaxies back when the universe was young but now it’s 14 billion years old. We, as young-earth Biblical creationists predicted those galaxies were going to look just like all the other galaxies. And who was right? I mean, how could all of NASA be wrong? And how could 1 Bible talk-show be right?


Summary:

Bob Enyart gives an exciting preview of all the science to come from America's Pluto flyby mission. And today's program previews our planned Real Science Radio program for Friday, titled RSR's List of Problems with Solar System Formation.
 

gcthomas

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Strangely, the differences between the most distant galaxies and modern ones has been published about for years. How could that be when Bob says otherwise? Surely one of his predictions couldn't have (whisper it) failed?

Are you telling me that Bob doesn't read The Astrophysical Journal Letters of the Institute of Physics?
 

6days

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Strangely, the differences between the most distant galaxies and modern ones has been published about for years. How could that be when Bob says otherwise? Surely one of his predictions couldn't have (whisper it) failed?
Strangely, secular astronomers continue to be surprised at the appearance of age, in the distant universe. (What they consider to be early universe).
Its easy to google to find astronomers surprised when Hubble discoveries contradict their billion of year belief system.
 

gcthomas

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Strangely, secular astronomers continue to be surprised at the appearance of age, in the distant universe. (What they consider to be early universe).
Its easy to google to find astronomers surprised when Hubble discoveries contradict their billion of year belief system.

Hubble discoveries have not contradicted the big bang theory. Since there is not a good model yet for galaxy formation, as it is very complex, being surprised is not a refutation of a model. It is just being surprised.

You are too gullible when you read that garbage. What they are telling you is not science you know.
 

gcthomas

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All of them

Why do you believe the alleged photos of pluto are real?

Because the international group of university scientists who bid for the money to build and launch their project are not under the mind control of NASA. Because the way the scientific community is set up to reward those who disprove what has been thought before, because there are millions of non-NASA scientists spread around the world who would have to be in the biggest and most secure conspiracy the world has ever seen.

And because you can't say why you think these images are paintings. Because you can't explain who would benefit from the conspiracy more that the real projects. Because you don't seem to understand even the basics of science.

Because extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and all I have to go on is the unsupported claims of a green ink writing anonymous forum poster.
 

6days

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Hubble discoveries have not contradicted the big bang theory.
Big Bang 'theory' has too much plasticity to be totally contradicted. (Although, there are secularists looking for a new 'theory' to replace Big Bang, that still excludes a Creator)
And... I didn't say it contradicted... What I said was "secular astronomers continue to be surprised at the appearance of age, in the distant universe. (What they consider to be early universe)."

They then hypothesize different scenarios to fit their a priori belief system.
Examples:
Surprisingly, we found galaxies that are fully formed and dead when the universe was only one-fifth its present age.”
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn7132-red-and-dead-galaxies-surprise-astronomers

"These giants (dead galaxies) suffocated far sooner than expected....We are really amazed - these are the earliest, oldest galaxies found to date," Labbe said. "Their existence was not predicted by theory "http://www.space.com/866-surprising-view-early-universe.html

"The first galaxies may have formed much earlier than thought, a new study suggests — just 200 million years or so after the universe's birth.....The finding could force astronomers to rethink what they seem to know about the cosmos and its early days, researchers said.

This challenges theories of how soon galaxies formed and evolved in the first years of the universe"
http://www.space.com/11386-galaxies-formation-big-bang-hubble-telescope.html

"Astronomers are trying to come up with the solution to the puzzle of a black hole so big forming so early after the birth of the universe, which goes against the growth limits posited by current assumptions, the astronomers say."
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/3...ck-hole-found-is-so-big-it-doesnt-fit-theory-a-surprise-from-the-early-universe.htm

In the beginning, God created.....while the morning stars sang together....The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands....
 

gcthomas

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Big Bang 'theory' has too much plasticity to be totally contradicted. (Although, there are secularists looking for a new 'theory' to replace Big Bang, that still excludes a Creator)
And... I didn't say it contradicted... What I said was "secular astronomers continue to be surprised at the appearance of age, in the distant universe. (What they consider to be early universe)."

Hmmm. Didn't say 'contradicted', you say? Well, let's see...

Strangely, secular astronomers continue to be surprised at the appearance of age, in the distant universe. (What they consider to be early universe).
Its easy to google to find astronomers surprised when Hubble discoveries contradict their billion of year belief system.

So, you went back to your earlier post to cut'n'paste your comment, and specifically leave out the part which I referenced, and then go on to blatantly lie about what you said?

You are a liar and an idiot, 6days. Not only do you distort what others say to bolster your beliefs, YOU SELECTIVELY QUOTE YOURSELF AND LIE ABOUT WHAT YOU SAID.

How you can call yourself Christian, I don't know. Would Jesus have lied like that?
 

6days

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Hmmm. Didn't say 'contradicted', you say? Well, let's see...
Correct... I did not say it contradicted Big Bang Theory, which you turned the argument towards . Lets see....
gcThomas:
Strangely, the differences between the most distant galaxies and modern ones has been published about for years. How could that be when Bob says otherwise? Surely one of his predictions couldn't have (whisper it) failed?
6days:
Strangely, secular astronomers continue to be surprised at the appearance of age, in the distant universe. (What they consider to be early universe).
Its easy to google to find astronomers surprised when Hubble discoveries contradict their billion of year belief system.
gcthomas:
Hubble discoveries have not contradicted the big bang theory.
6days:
Big Bang 'theory' has too much plasticity to be totally contradicted. (Although, there are secularists looking for a new 'theory' to replace Big Bang, that still excludes a Creator)

gcthomas said:
Strangely, the differences between the most distant galaxies and modern ones has been published about for years. How could that be when Bob says otherwise? Surely one of his predictions couldn't have (whisper it) failed?
The answer... Bob was correct.
Current astronomers still are "surprised" and "amazed" and need to "rethink" when they find differences between distant galaxies and "modern" ones.
 

6days

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Hmmm. Didn't say 'contradicted', you say? Well, let's see...
Correct... I did not say it contradicted Big Bang Theory, which you turned the argument towards . Lets see....
gcThomas:
Strangely, the differences between the most distant galaxies and modern ones has been published about for years. How could that be when Bob says otherwise? Surely one of his predictions couldn't have (whisper it) failed?
6days:
Strangely, secular astronomers continue to be surprised at the appearance of age, in the distant universe. (What they consider to be early universe).
Its easy to google to find astronomers surprised when Hubble discoveries contradict their billion of year belief system.
gcthomas:
Hubble discoveries have not contradicted the big bang theory.
6days:
Big Bang 'theory' has too much plasticity to be totally contradicted. (Although, there are secularists looking for a new 'theory' to replace Big Bang, that still excludes a Creator)

To get back to your original argument.....about "the differences between the most distant galaxies and modern ones has been published about for years"..... that may be, but it still surprises and amazes astronomers because it DOES contradict their belief system in billions of years.

gcthomas said:
Strangely, the differences between the most distant galaxies and modern ones has been published about for years. How could that be when Bob says otherwise? Surely one of his predictions couldn't have (whisper it) failed?
The answer... Bob was correct.
Current astronomers still are "surprised" and "amazed" and need to "rethink" when they find differences between distant galaxies and "modern" ones.

Surprisingly, we found galaxies that are fully formed and dead when the universe was only one-fifth its present age.”
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn7132-red-and-dead-galaxies-surprise-astronomers

"These giants (dead galaxies) suffocated far sooner than expected....We are really amazed - these are the earliest, oldest galaxies found to date," Labbe said. "Their existence was not predicted by theory "http://www.space.com/866-surprising-view-early-universe.html

"The first galaxies may have formed much earlier than thought, a new study suggests — just 200 million years or so after the universe's birth.....The finding could force astronomers to rethink what they seem to know about the cosmos and its early days, researchers said.

This challenges theories of how soon galaxies formed and evolved in the first years of the universe"
http://www.space.com/11386-galaxies-formation-big-bang-hubble-telescope.html

"Astronomers are trying to come up with the solution to the puzzle of a black hole so big forming so early after the birth of the universe, which goes against the growth limits posited by current assumptions, the astronomers say."
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/3...ck-hole-found-is-so-big-it-doesnt-fit-theory-a-surprise-from-the-early-universe.htm

In the beginning, God created.....while the morning stars sang together....The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands....
 
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