lifeisgood
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I do/did. There is only ONE way (not more than one order) to get to God --- faith in Jesus Christ and His finished work on the Cross of Calvary.
I always told them I was Santa.
Paul: "If Christ be not raised your faith is in vain and you are still in your sins"
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I do/did. There is only ONE way (not more than one order) to get to God --- faith in Jesus Christ and His finished work on the Cross of Calvary.
I always told them I was Santa.
"Personal relationship" is self explainatory. Your constant fighting and losing is boring all of us. Go away !
lifeisgood
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I guess talking about such an incredible happening as being selected as one of the elect ones is a boring theme to ALL (elect ones). Got it.
Being boastfully and pridefull about your own personal man made superman free will is a million++++++++++++++++++++++++ times more spooky that watching the first exorcist film. May the free will force be with you.
Epoisses
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Arminians preach 'righteousness by choice' and Clavinists preach 'righteousness by predestination'. Both are perversions of the biblical understanding of 'righteousness by faith'. Faith is not a choice from the will and it is never presumes upon the goodness of God. Choice and presumption are two ditches on either side of the gospel.
You must read a lot...
God's Truth
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Some want to be saved. You are not a zombie.
God's Truth
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That is right. OBEYERS are chosen.
God's Truth
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Jesus chooses some and they still have to obey and be warned.
God's Truth
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That is a lie from the bottom of the pit. The bottom of the pit where YOU put ALL.
God's Truth
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How dumb, for it is not an interpretation, it is an exact reading of what is plainly written.
"So then faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God" Romans 10:17, Which is the Gospel.
You got lots of arminian flavors !
When they don't want to, God steps in and saves them according to his own pleasure not mans nor GT. It's in the bible. Go look it up. Total depravity is true and God does the choosing before earth was created.
God gives who he drew to Jesus. Everyone that was given to him will be saved. Not one that was given to Jesus will go to hell, hence he died for some and not every man who you label as all men.
lifeisgood
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How do you KNOW Jesus died for you but did not die for one of your children?
By belief
Epoisses
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Jesus died for all people including the unbelieving Calvinists who slice and dice his holy atonement.
Jesus is the savior of the world including all people, elect and non-elect, sheep and goats, wheat and tares.
Jesus died for and saved everyone and has forgiven them of all their sins. The only reason why anyone will ever be lost is because they resist the Holy Spirit in unbelief and deliberately reject the shed blood of Christ whereby they were sanctified.
Many will end up in hell realizing they were in fact saved by the blood of Christ but they despised it and threw it away for a bowl of John Calvin's soup.
Right on! And John Calvin's soup was full of poison.
Conversion happens after regeneration.