pacifism for true Jesus' followers.
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Dan 5:18 O thou king, the most high God gave Nebuchadnezzar thy father a kingdom, and majesty, and glory, and honour:
Dan 5:19 And for the majesty that he gave him, all people, nations, and languages, trembled and feared before him: whom he would he slew; and whom he would he kept alive; and whom he would he set up; and whom he would he put down.
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KingdomRose
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And the passages don't say what they did AFTERWARD, do they? Perhaps they did not return to their soldiering. Christians in the earliest days of the Christian congregation did not participate in the military, and this is backed up by historical accounts.
KingdomRose
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The military is ALLOWED by God; He didn't set up that institution. Jehovah allows the governments of all of the nations to exist, as institutions for services to the citizens and also to prevent chaos. How can Jesus preach peace and you say that God sets up the military? You're a bit confused.
How long do you suppose Cornelius lived after he quit soldiering in the Roman army?
KingdomRose
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Why do you choose to think that he whipped people or even animals? You have a skewed view of Jesus. He didn't act violently and outrageously. He simply overturned a few tables and chased the animals out.
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KingdomRose
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Yes....Jesus will do that, that's why we don't get involved in wars and violence ourselves. We are not to do any smiting. He will take care of all of the eradication of evil people and their institutions.
It seems that he already serving as a soldier so he could not just get out of it.
In the US, you have to make a bow to government for certain years when you join the military. You just cannot quit.
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Those wars were directed by Jehovah, directly from His mouth. Israel didn't always obey what He said, but He would tell them what to do. Are ANY wars today directed by Jehovah? Not on your life.
True but shouldn't Cornelius have quit, bore his cross and suffered the consequences?
Nope, he does not have to kill even in the military. He could serve God where he was.
I agree that he could serve GOD where he was, but he could not refuse a Roman order to use weapons or to kill without answering to Rome. Also, Cornelius was a Centurion, meaning that he had charge over a hundred Roman soldiers. Do you think that he just suddenly stopped ordering his soldiers according to Rome's mandate?
Does a country have a right and responsibility to protect itself and its citizens?
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I don't know the situation so all I can do is speculation. But I know there was a good reason for that situation because Jesus does not approve of killing and He showed us a good example Himself.
I trust Jesus' word.
here you go again, same kind of lame excuse.
Rose will tell you the same thing. She is a pacifist Christian.
Meshak, either respond to my questions with answers or don't respond at all. This is a forum for discussion, and if you don't want to discuss, then don't discuss, but don't get in the way of other people's discussion.
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You don't make a rules. This is my thread. I control what is going on. You have been repeating the same kind of questions over and over. It is pathetic.
Don't make her use her brain. She'll have a meltdown.
I repeat my questions because NO ONE is answering them, especially you.
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