Oh No Not Another Apocalypse Thread By Chrysostom

[chrysostom]

Who wrote it and to whom did John write?? Yes, it does matter.
His servant John the Baptist who bare record to prepare the way for the Lamb found 27 times
John the Apostle to the seven churches. He added the churches and Jesus.
John Chrysostom, who also am your brother was in Ephesus at the beginning of the 5th century.
John was told to eat the book and prophesy again. And again.
This is why John uses his name three times in the first chapter. Three different Johns.
This is why Eusebius and Victorinus both fail to recognize the seven churches.
This is why they can't agree who wrote it or when it was written.
Irenaeus and ancient copies of the Apocalypse.
Dionysius of Alexandria did not think John the Apostle wrote the Apocalypse.
Jerome needed a reliable copy.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Who wrote it and to whom did John write?? Yes, it does matter.

So which is it? That? Or this?

It doesn't matter who wrote it or to whom it was written.

 

[chrysostom]

So which is it? That? Or this?

It depends on the context.

 

[chrysostom]

Who wrote it and to whom did John write?? Yes, it does matter.
His servant John the Baptist who bare record to prepare the way for the Lamb found 27 times
John the Apostle to the seven churches. He added the churches and Jesus.
John Chrysostom, who also am your brother was in Ephesus at the beginning of the 5th century.
John was told to eat the book and prophesy again. And again.
This is why John uses his name three times in the first chapter. Three different Johns.
This is why Eusebius and Victorinus both fail to recognize the seven churches.
This is why they can't agree who wrote it or when it was written.
Irenaeus and ancient copies of the Apocalypse.
Dionysius of Alexandria did not think John the Apostle wrote the Apocalypse.
Jerome needed a reliable copy.

Why would John identify himself three times in the first chapter? Think about that.
Why would John use the word 'Lamb' 27 times? Think about that.
Why would John eat the little book and prophesy again? Think about that.
These are valid questions. We can only speculate what the reasons are.
What is reasonable?

 

[Clete]

So you are saying one who 'rightly divides' is the same as one who 'correctly handles the word of truth'. That would explain why we need 60 different translations.

I'm simply saying what I've said all along. You simply don't get to ignore the context of a passage and expect to understand it correctly. The context has direct bearing on the meaning and application of any passage. That's true throughout all of language.

No

Then what were you suggesting, Chrys? What's the point in telling me, effectively, that the bible doesn't instruct us to rightly divide the word of truth if not in an effort to evade the point I am making?

 

[Clete]

It depends on the context.

Are you TRYING to make yourself look like a clown?