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He is consistently and proudly irrational and illogical.
Oh No Not Another Apocalypse Thread By Chrysostom
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So how is the next thread going?
Still working on the title.
Why?
Don't know whose names to put in.
You only need three.
Which three?
Clete, Idolater, and Annabenedetti.
Thanks
Derf
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Why is it borderline Gnosticism?
Schizophrenic to boot!
You could start the next thread with 666.
That does seem to get a lot of attention.
Put it in the title.
Good idea.
666
"Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six" .13:18
31 translations calculate the number and only 15 count it. I calculate it with a calendar converter.
Daniel suggests number is a date with "number of the years". Gibbon has Islam attacking Constantinople 46 years after the Hijra. Put 46 in an Islam calendar converter and you get 666.
The Julian calendar starting in 44 BC puts the Hijra in the year 666.
"And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark" 13:17
If the mark is a date, everything bought and sold today has a date.
"And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God." 15:2
In 666, Constantinople used Greek Fire on the Sea of Marmara to stop Islam.
"Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six" .13:18
31 translations calculate the number and only 15 count it. I calculate it with a calendar converter.
Daniel suggests number is a date with "number of the years". Gibbon has Islam attacking Constantinople 46 years after the Hijra. Put 46 in an Islam calendar converter and you get 666.
The Julian calendar starting in 44 BC puts the Hijra in the year 666.
"And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark" 13:17
If the mark is a date, everything bought and sold today has a date.
"And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God." 15:2
In 666, Constantinople used Greek Fire on the Sea of Marmara to stop Islam.
Idolater
"Matthew 16:18-19" Dispensationalist (Catholic) χρ
Imagine we don't have numerals (which were an invention of Arabs).
Imagine instead each letter plays two roles, one as a letter, and one as a number.
Imagine your name, Chrysostom where C =1, H =2, R =3, Y =4, S =5, O =6, T =7, M =8
Your name equals 1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +5 +7 +6 +8 =47
Caesar Nero when spelled using Hebrew letters which were also equal to numbers equals 666
Imagine instead each letter plays two roles, one as a letter, and one as a number.
Imagine your name, Chrysostom where C =1, H =2, R =3, Y =4, S =5, O =6, T =7, M =8
Your name equals 1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +5 +7 +6 +8 =47
Caesar Nero when spelled using Hebrew letters which were also equal to numbers equals 666
The Four Horsemen
Constantine is the rider of the white horse from the white sea, not The White Sea. The Mediterranean and Aegean seas are both aka the white sea. The bow in his hand is a rainbow not unlike the bow in Genesis 9:13 which is a covenant.
Mohammed is the rider of the red horse from the Red Sea. The father of Islam History takes peace from the earth.
Marx is the rider of the black horse and the father of communism from the Black Sea. Over 100 million had to die to eliminate religion.
Death is the rider of the pale horse. There is no pale sea but there is a Pale of Settlement and it looks like Ukraine.
Constantine is the rider of the white horse from the white sea, not The White Sea. The Mediterranean and Aegean seas are both aka the white sea. The bow in his hand is a rainbow not unlike the bow in Genesis 9:13 which is a covenant.
Mohammed is the rider of the red horse from the Red Sea. The father of Islam History takes peace from the earth.
Marx is the rider of the black horse and the father of communism from the Black Sea. Over 100 million had to die to eliminate religion.
Death is the rider of the pale horse. There is no pale sea but there is a Pale of Settlement and it looks like Ukraine.
Okay, now can you show how Nero fits in with the rest of the Apocalypse?
Idolater
"Matthew 16:18-19" Dispensationalist (Catholic) χρ
Under Nero both Peter and Paul were put to death, in Rome.
$$ Re 13:16
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
$$ Re 13:17
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
$$ Re 13:18
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.
This just means the beast's NIL is going to be on money. You should just do an image search on your search engine for 'nero coin' sometime. We have lots of coins literally from the same time Revelation was written.
idk if this link will work for you but here's my search engine results.
NIL.
Do you agree that 666 is associated with the second beast with ten horns that replaced the one with seven heads?
End-time Ministries started by Irvin Baxter has some different choices for the riders of these horses regarding the last days. His thoughts seem some what to co-mingle with what you, chrysostom, have suggested. I am paraphrasing what I remember of some of his teachings.
Black Horse rider - capitalism
Green Horse/pale horse - Islam (Green has been part of their flags for centuries and has represented the Islamic people and nations.)
White horse - Roman Catholic Church (Charlemagne was the Roman Emperor who was crowned by the Holy Catholic Church... thus a co-mingle or the church and the state.)
Red horse - Socialism/Communism/Marxism/what ever government power that hates God and individual freedom
His reasoning is very interesting as well.
QUESTION: Chrysostom, why do you say Constantine instead of Charlemagne? I know Constantine converted to Christianity ...
Black Horse rider - capitalism
Green Horse/pale horse - Islam (Green has been part of their flags for centuries and has represented the Islamic people and nations.)
White horse - Roman Catholic Church (Charlemagne was the Roman Emperor who was crowned by the Holy Catholic Church... thus a co-mingle or the church and the state.)
Red horse - Socialism/Communism/Marxism/what ever government power that hates God and individual freedom
His reasoning is very interesting as well.
QUESTION: Chrysostom, why do you say Constantine instead of Charlemagne? I know Constantine converted to Christianity ...
Thank you for the question. Constantine created the Byzantine Empire that would last a thousand years and ended up protecting Rome.
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You'd better let Wikipedia know about that: Byzantine Empire 330–1453
We don't know Peter's fate. As his bone box is at the Mount of Olives, as we would expect. I have no reason to believe the Romans would let them live after the siege.
And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east.
And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two, From east to west, Making a very large valley;
Half of the mountain shall move toward the north And half of it toward the south.
The Four Beasts of Daniel
The fourth beast of Daniel had "ten horns" and they shall "hate the whore". Therefore Rome cannot be the fourth beast of Daniel or the whore, the great city, that lasted a thousand years. The ten horns ties the fourth beast of Daniel to the second beast of the Apocalypse. Rome was clearly the beast with seven dynasties at the beginning of the Byzantine Empire and Islam was the beast with ten horns, dynasties, at the end. No one has explained what the four beasts had in common. The Temple. Babylon destroyed the first Temple, Greece desecrated the second, and Rome destroyed the second. The Dome of the Rock is preventing the third, making Islam the fourth beast of Daniel and second beast of the Apocalypse.
The fourth beast of Daniel had "ten horns" and they shall "hate the whore". Therefore Rome cannot be the fourth beast of Daniel or the whore, the great city, that lasted a thousand years. The ten horns ties the fourth beast of Daniel to the second beast of the Apocalypse. Rome was clearly the beast with seven dynasties at the beginning of the Byzantine Empire and Islam was the beast with ten horns, dynasties, at the end. No one has explained what the four beasts had in common. The Temple. Babylon destroyed the first Temple, Greece desecrated the second, and Rome destroyed the second. The Dome of the Rock is preventing the third, making Islam the fourth beast of Daniel and second beast of the Apocalypse.
Babylon the Great
It is not Rome. Everyone knew it had seven hills. Even Peter. It was not a mystery. Constantinople having seven hills was a mystery and likely to remain so. It had many waters and merchants. It has fallen and can be found no more at all. It was the capital of the Byzantine Empire where they reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The walls built by Theodosius II in the fifth century included the seventh hill and fulfilled the prophecy.
It is not Rome. Everyone knew it had seven hills. Even Peter. It was not a mystery. Constantinople having seven hills was a mystery and likely to remain so. It had many waters and merchants. It has fallen and can be found no more at all. It was the capital of the Byzantine Empire where they reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The walls built by Theodosius II in the fifth century included the seventh hill and fulfilled the prophecy.
Two Witnesses
Search the Bible for "two olive trees". Zechariah 4 leads to Zerubbabel, a governor, who is "always associated with the high priest" Joshua and together started the second Temple. Church and State working together. "In the order of Melchizedek". a priest-king, who was the first example of Church and State working together. Later the Byzantine Empire and the Holy Roman Empire "are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth." The olive tree is the State and the candlestick is the Church.
Search the Bible for "two olive trees". Zechariah 4 leads to Zerubbabel, a governor, who is "always associated with the high priest" Joshua and together started the second Temple. Church and State working together. "In the order of Melchizedek". a priest-king, who was the first example of Church and State working together. Later the Byzantine Empire and the Holy Roman Empire "are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth." The olive tree is the State and the candlestick is the Church.
A Thousand Years
A bottomless pit connects chapters: 9, 11, 17, and 20 which proves the theory of recapitulation introduced by Victorinus. It holds that the chapters of the Apocalypse are not necessarily in chronological order. The beast chained in chapter 20 is being released in chapter 9. Also the thousand years started in chapter 20 is ended in chapter 18. The thousand years is when they "reigned with Christ". This has been misinterpreted as "reign of Christ" which cannot be found in the bible. Only on the internet. There is only one Christian empire where they reigned with Christ a thousand years. The Byzantine Empire. This empire started with the seven dynasties of the Roman empire and ended with the ten dynasties of Islam. The beast with seven heads and ten horns.
A bottomless pit connects chapters: 9, 11, 17, and 20 which proves the theory of recapitulation introduced by Victorinus. It holds that the chapters of the Apocalypse are not necessarily in chronological order. The beast chained in chapter 20 is being released in chapter 9. Also the thousand years started in chapter 20 is ended in chapter 18. The thousand years is when they "reigned with Christ". This has been misinterpreted as "reign of Christ" which cannot be found in the bible. Only on the internet. There is only one Christian empire where they reigned with Christ a thousand years. The Byzantine Empire. This empire started with the seven dynasties of the Roman empire and ended with the ten dynasties of Islam. The beast with seven heads and ten horns.