Oh No Not Another Apocalypse Thread By Chrysostom

[Right Divider]

It was real easy. Islam helped a lot.

It's false and evil.

You should get saved and join the body of Christ.

 

[chrysostom]

When this book was first written, the time was near for the first coming. Now the time is near for the second coming.

Come Lord Jesus.

Why prophecy? To prove God is in control. To comfort those not in control who are suffering. You don't need to understand it but it is there if you need some kind of assurance. The Apocalypse has concepts not addressed in any other place in the bible. Like the second death. Who talks about that? Like New Jerusalem. Who talks about that without putting it in the future. The future is for those who can't find prophecies already fulfilled in history. Many don't even bother looking. Most don't know how to connect history and prophecy. I use numbers and colors. Words you can trust. All the other words can be mistranslated or misinterpreted by men who are not necessarily inspired. That is why we have over 60 English bibles each with many revisions. Who can you trust? What can you trust? The Church does not have an official explanation for the Apocalypse which allows us to speculate. Nothing wrong with speculation if it is reasonable. So what is reasonable?

 

[Clete]

In a thread that has apparently been deleted, you told Lon goodbye forever and that you were done with TOL

So, I did! I reserve the right to change my mind.

In this case, I hadn't actually changed my mind per se. I had taken everyone I could find off my ignore list, including you, just in case there was someone on that list who wanted to participate in the "Ask me anything" thread I started. I haven't placed anyone back on it unless and until they did something new to deserve it.

As for everything else you wrote. I didn't read it and won't.

I literally could not care less about anything you have to say about anyone or anything. As is the case with very nearly every person on this website.

 

[chrysostom]

Why prophecy? To prove God is in control. To comfort those not in control who are suffering. You don't need to understand it but it is there if you need some kind of assurance. The Apocalypse has concepts not addressed in any other place in the bible. Like the second death. Who talks about that? Like New Jerusalem. Who talks about that without putting it in the future. The future is for those who can't find prophecies already fulfilled in history. Many don't even bother looking. Most don't know how to connect history and prophecy. I use numbers and colors. Words you can trust. All the other words can be mistranslated or misinterpreted by men who are not necessarily inspired. That is why we have over 60 English bibles each with many revisions. Who can you trust? What can you trust? The Church does not have an official explanation for the Apocalypse which allows us to speculate. Nothing wrong with speculation if it is reasonable. So what is reasonable?

What is reasonable? To say the Apocalypse, written 2000 years ago, is about the second coming is not reasonable when it says the time is near. To say it is about the first coming could be reasonable if it was written before Jesus. We have reason to believe there is a version of the Apocalypse that didn't have the seven churches. Eusebius and Victorinus are not aware of them. John the Baptist was preparing the way for the lamb, a word found 27 times in the Apocalypse. We also have Irenaeus mentioning ancient copies of the Apocalypse.