Mueller turns up the heat on impeachment

[annabenedetti]

1. I dont have a side..

Oh, you definitely have a side.

2. What rights has trump taken away from you? Be specific...

That's not what I said though, is it? I said: "Your" side is willfully blind to the damage Trump and his administration are doing to our constitutional rights that "your" side claims to love and defend."

As long as "your" side doesn't experience any personal damage, "your" side doesn't care about the constitutional rights of others being damaged. Asylum seekers have rights under the Constitution. Trump's attacks on the press, the first amendment, fourth amendment, legal precedence and rule of law are a danger to every citizen. His attempts to circumvent the balance of power is a danger to every citizen. His attempts to limit rights based on religion are a danger to every citizen. His indifference to subpoenas, his instructions to his administration members to not cooperate with Congress - they clearly signal that he's an autocrat who considers himself above the law. The Constitution was written to protect us against a president like Trump, but I don't think the framers were anticipating the Senate would be enablers to autocracy.

 

[ok doser]

I don't think the framers were anticipating the Senate would be enablers to autocracy.

Maybe it's time to pull the plug, to recognize the failure that our experiment called "democracy" has become, to acknowledge, as did the founding fathers, that our American experiment would only be successful with a population informed by Christian values

 

[ok doser]

So, are we impeached yet?

 

[Town Heretic]

Oh, you definitely have a side.



That's not what I said though, is it? I said: "Your" side is willfully blind to the damage Trump and his administration are doing to our constitutional rights that "your" side claims to love and defend."

As long as "your" side doesn't experience any personal damage, "your" side doesn't care about the constitutional rights of others being damaged. Asylum seekers have rights under the Constitution. Trump's attacks on the press, the first amendment, fourth amendment, legal precedence and rule of law are a danger to every citizen. His attempts to circumvent the balance of power is a danger to every citizen. His attempts to limit rights based on religion are a danger to every citizen. His indifference to subpoenas, his instructions to his administration members to not cooperate with Congress - they clearly signal that he's an autocrat who considers himself above the law. The Constitution was written to protect us against a president like Trump, but I don't think the framers were anticipating the Senate would be enablers to autocracy.

That's an excellent beginning. And then there's the matter of his shady finances, the benefits he's gotten from foreign governments since becoming president. The Senate is worse, because they know better. I think Trump, well, I doubt right or wrong ever enters into it for him.

 

[annabenedetti]

That's an excellent beginning. And then there's the matter of his shady finances, the benefits he's gotten from foreign governments since becoming president. The Senate is worse, because they know better. I think Trump, well, I doubt right or wrong ever enters into it for him.

There's so much more, TH. It's exhausting.

 

[The Barbarian]

A lazy and imprecise use of language tends to issue from lazy and imprecise thinking.

It seems precise use of language can be a moral issue:

Why Writing Better Will Make You a Better Person
https://www.chronicle.com/article/Why-Writing-Better-Will-Make/246406/?utm_source=pocket-newtab

 

[Stripe]

It seems precise use of language can be a moral issue:

Gee.

Maybe you'll stop equivocating over terms that have been explicitly defined for you numerous times. No? No surprise there.

 

[ok doser]

Given a list of reasons to impeach trump, Anna claims:

There's so much more...
It's exhausting.

So, are we impeached yet? :idunno:

 

[annabenedetti]

Trump's DOJ Grilled Dossier Author Christopher Steele And Found Him Credible

The author of a controversial dossier about Donald Trump and Russia has reportedly been found credible by the Department of Justice.

Politico reported on Tuesday that Christopher Steele had been grilled for 16 hours while the president visited London recently.
Steele was hired by Fusion GPS to conduct opposition research on Trump during the 2016 election. His work was first funded by a conservative activist before later being turned over to the Democratic National Committee and the FBI.From Politico:

The extensive, two-day interview took place in London while Trump was in Britain for a state visit, the sources said, and delved into Steele’s extensive work on Russian interference efforts globally, his intelligence-collection methods and his findings about Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, who the FBI ultimately surveilled. The FBI’s decision to seek a surveillance warrant against Page — a warrant they applied for and obtained after Page had already left the campaign — is the chief focus of the probe by Horowitz.
The interview was contentious at first, the sources added, but investigators ultimately found Steele’s testimony credible and even surprising. The takeaway has irked some U.S. officials interviewed as part of the probe — they argue that it shouldn’t have taken a foreign national to convince the inspector general that the FBI acted properly in 2016. Steele’s American lawyer was present for the conversation.

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According to Reuters, Inspector General Michael Horowitz found Steele’s testimony compelling enough to extend an investigation into whether the FBI acted properly by using the dossier to obtain court permission for surveillance on the Trump campaign. Republicans have insisted that the use of the dossier was improper.
Read the entire report here.

 

[ok doser]

so this is going to lead to impeachment?


any time soon?

 

[ok doser]

Bueller?


Bueller?

 

[ok doser]

Day 906 of the Trump presidency - will this be the day the left finally gets around to impeaching him?

 

[ok doser]

So trump tweeted something retarded, and the retarded Democrats in the HoR denounced it as "racist"

Is this finally it? The impeachable offense?

 

[Town Heretic]

Trump's DOJ Grilled Dossier Author Christopher Steele And Found Him Credible

The author of a controversial dossier about Donald Trump and Russia has reportedly been found credible by the Department of Justice.

Whereas the president has largely been found without credibility by over half the electorate.

 

[ok doser]

So trump tweeted something retarded, and the retarded Democrats in the HoR denounced it as "racist"

Is this finally it? The impeachable offense?

And the answer is no, the house voted overwhelmingly not to proceed with impeachment over a post made on social media, because it's just too close to the 2020 election for America to realize they're all retards

Good call

 

[annabenedetti]

Robert Mueller Testifies Before House Judiciary Committee
WATCH LIVE ON JULY 24 | 8:30AM ET | C-SPAN3

[FONT=&quot]Under the new arrangement, Mueller will testify for an extended period of time — three hours instead of two — before the House Judiciary Committee. He will then testify before the House intelligence committee in a separate hearing.[/FONT]

 

[ok doser]

So no impeachment this week?

 

[The Barbarian]

A majority of self-described American voters surveyed in a new INSIDER poll agreed with Republican Rep. Justin Amash that President Donald Trump "committed impeachable offenses."

Among respondents who said they were registered to vote, 54% agreed.

Amash is the first Republican lawmaker to call for Trump's impeachment based on Robert Mueller's findings in the special counsel's Russia investigation.

In the wake of Mueller's report, and of a news conference the former FBI director gave last week, calls for Trump's impeachment have grown steadily louder.

House Democrats have been pumping the brakes on impeachment out of fear of political backlash. But mounting public support for the move could lead to a shift in Democrats' strategy.
https://www.businessinsider.com/voters-agree-trump-committed-impeachable-offenses-poll-2019-6

It's a majority, but not a very large majority. Peolosi no doubt remembers what happened to the republicans in Congress when most Americans didn't think Bill Clinton had committed an impeachable offense, but impeached him anyway.

The offense was lying, BTW. Allegedly under oath although the judge in the case didn't think so.

Imagine how many articles of impeachment there would be if democrats thought Trump lying was impeachable...

 

[Stripe]

:yawn:

 

[ok doser]

A majority of self-described American voters surveyed in a new INSIDER poll agreed with Republican Rep. Justin Amash that President Donald Trump "committed impeachable offenses."

Among respondents who said they were registered to vote, 54% agreed.

Amash is the first Republican lawmaker to call for Trump's impeachment based on Robert Mueller's findings in the special counsel's Russia investigation.

In the wake of Mueller's report, and of a news conference the former FBI director gave last week, calls for Trump's impeachment have grown steadily louder.

House Democrats have been pumping the brakes on impeachment out of fear of political backlash. But mounting public support for the move could lead to a shift in Democrats' strategy.
https://www.businessinsider.com/voters-agree-trump-committed-impeachable-offenses-poll-2019-6

It's a majority, but not a very large majority. Peolosi no doubt remembers what happened to the republicans in Congress when most Americans didn't think Bill Clinton had committed an impeachable offense, but impeached him anyway.

The offense was lying, BTW. Allegedly under oath although the judge in the case didn't think so.

Imagine how many articles of impeachment there would be if democrats thought Trump lying was impeachable...

So this is going to be it, finally?

This is going to be what it takes to start the impeachment process?