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ShadowMaid
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Woohooo!! :bannana:
I think Poly and Sibbie are heading to the top of my "Example List!" :bannana:
I think Poly and Sibbie are heading to the top of my "Example List!" :bannana:
Chileice
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Life is faaaar tooo short to fill it with hatred.
A young boy, ten years old, lies on life support.
His brain is dead.
His parents wanted nothing to do with our Christianity, but he accepted Christ in front of our house when my wife shared with him about Jesus about a year ago. Last Sunday he was singing at church (we don't go to that church, we moved to another city) and his teacher said he was singing so loud and so happy to know Jesus.
Yesterday he had a cerebral hemmorage and the doctors did emergency surgery but now he is dead. When the pull the life support, we will drive four hours to the funeral and we will hug his mom and dad and shed tears with them and love them and cry with them. We will not tell them what evil sinners they are or tell them they are going to hell. We won't because we love them.
We WANT them to come to know the Saviour their boy is now with. Can you understand what I am trying to say? Does anyone get it? Had we cursed them or forsaken them we would have no opportunity to minister to them. Life is SOOOOOO short. Why spend it in hatred? I hope at least one person will go away from this thread with a new attitude. O God, I pray.
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Did Zacheus continue to take more taxes than he should? No, he went around paying people what he owed and then some.
Jesus told Mary Magdelene to "Go and sin no more". Apparently it was important to Him that she repent. Was she repentant? Do you really think that one who isn't repentant, blatently continuing in her perversions, is going to have the audacity to sit at the feet of Jesus, washing them with her tears? Tears come with repentance.
If one is a glutton, and has the kind of haughty and proud spirit toward God as most homos do, hating Him and responding in such a manner as "I don't care what God says about taking care of my body. I know better than He does. There's nothing wrong with being a glutton no matter what God says." then yes, this person needs to be shown that he is wrong and should repent of his attitude.
Are overweight people proud of this? Do they flaunt it in the face of God? No
The same, usually, cannot be said of a homosexual.
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adajos
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Poly,
I don't remember Christ calling Zaccheus derogatory names prior to his repentance however. Or talking about how much he disgusted him.
Of course repentance is important. What evidence have you that she already had repented and thus Christ treated her lovingly rather than that Christ treated her lovingly and then she repented? You can't know which it was.
What say you to this:
So what evidence do you have from this passage that Matthew repented prior to Jesus dining with him at his house?
If Matthew and the tax collectors were already repentant, then they were no longer "sick and in need of a doctor" as Jesus described them.
You can try to explain away Christ's association with sinners all you want, but the fact of the matter is that He did, and they weren't always repentant prior to His association with them.
As Greg Boyd said in church this past Sunday, "All sin misses the mark". In other words, all sin is implictly an act of pride. You put yourself above God's rules. Gluttons are rebelling against God's rules as surely as homosexuals. Every time they bring their fork to their mouth they are rubbing their sin in God's face (to borrow your terminology, Poly).
So you're talking about arbitrary degrees of pridefulness between homosexuals and gluttons that is found nowhere in the Bible. Those random degrees of pridefulness that you have thought up doesn't give you the go-ahead to treat one group like filth and coddle the other group.
Just to let everyone know I'm not advocating treating gluttons or homosexuals like dirt. I'm demontrating absurdity by being absurd.
I don't remember Christ calling Zaccheus derogatory names prior to his repentance however. Or talking about how much he disgusted him.
Of course repentance is important. What evidence have you that she already had repented and thus Christ treated her lovingly rather than that Christ treated her lovingly and then she repented? You can't know which it was.
What say you to this:
So what evidence do you have from this passage that Matthew repented prior to Jesus dining with him at his house?
If Matthew and the tax collectors were already repentant, then they were no longer "sick and in need of a doctor" as Jesus described them.
You can try to explain away Christ's association with sinners all you want, but the fact of the matter is that He did, and they weren't always repentant prior to His association with them.
As Greg Boyd said in church this past Sunday, "All sin misses the mark". In other words, all sin is implictly an act of pride. You put yourself above God's rules. Gluttons are rebelling against God's rules as surely as homosexuals. Every time they bring their fork to their mouth they are rubbing their sin in God's face (to borrow your terminology, Poly).
So you're talking about arbitrary degrees of pridefulness between homosexuals and gluttons that is found nowhere in the Bible. Those random degrees of pridefulness that you have thought up doesn't give you the go-ahead to treat one group like filth and coddle the other group.
Just to let everyone know I'm not advocating treating gluttons or homosexuals like dirt. I'm demontrating absurdity by being absurd.
Poly, wickedness is loving sin, even reaching for sin; where as the term sinner can mean someone who sins but tries not to. The term "sitill in their sins" can apply to a sinner who is enslaved unwillingly into his own sins, while wickedness is willful cooperation with Evil. Note also that wickedness generally creeps upon those who are still in their sins through pride, and those who are still in their sins are in danger. But by being too harsh on homosexuals, you may be only further inducing other sins such as anger brought by feelings of inferiority and further separation from people who are within Christ.
Many homosexuals, I think, are not wicked but trapped by lust. Lust can be defeated by love, and the family, but expecting homosexuals to replace Lust with emptyness and hollow threats will be self-defeating.
Many homosexuals, I think, are not wicked but trapped by lust. Lust can be defeated by love, and the family, but expecting homosexuals to replace Lust with emptyness and hollow threats will be self-defeating.
I told him. Guess what? He ignored me.
beanieboy-
You are not a repentant sinner. You have no room to talk. So, shut up!
You are not a repentant sinner. You have no room to talk. So, shut up!
Maybe you shoud try running into me, sometime. If you're going to hit me, I don't care where you hit me, just as long as you understand you're going to get hit, too.
Cyrus of Persia
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Neither are you repentant sinner. Thanks for your confessions in those boards we read that you still struggle with your sins. So either shut up! or let the other sinners to speak too!
Nuff said!
philosophizer
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There's a difference between struggling and not repenting.
philosophizer
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Whoa, careful Poly! It doesn't say anywhere that the woman in that chapter was Mary Magdelene.
Nineveh
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If Poly is judging wrongly, she will answer to the same God beanieboy will. The difference is, she has the covering of Christ and can stand before the Mighty and Righteous God. Beanieboy has only his works to cover himself with. An unrepentant homosexual covered in his abominations vs a repentant follower of Christ, so tell me folks, which shoes would you rather be in on that day?
: tries on Poly's shoes:
What does beanieboy want? To be left alone in his sin at best, to shut up the Gospel at worst. What does Poly want? To see beanieboy look to Christ for his righteousness.
Righteousness:
1. acting in accord with divine or moral law : free from guilt or sin
Poly fits that definition, she has chosen Christ, who is the Only One who can impart righteousness to sinners and cleans them by His blood.
Definition 2. a : morally right or justifiable
This is where those who are still steeped in sin fall into the definition. They are often found twisting the Righteous Ways of God to fit their world view and "justify" their own sin by their own "moral standard".
So in reality, those who defy the Word of God in favor of their own justification for sin are the self righteous among us, while those who seek Jesus Christ are justified by Him alone.
There are only two options:
1. The Law convicts and shows a need for repentance.
2. The Law is twisted to avoid being convicted and negating the need to repent.
If you decide on option 2, you have chosen to live under the law you are breaking and will be judged by, you have chosen your own self righteousness. Nice? No, I can't see anything nice about it, but that is the reality.
: tries on Poly's shoes:
What does beanieboy want? To be left alone in his sin at best, to shut up the Gospel at worst. What does Poly want? To see beanieboy look to Christ for his righteousness.
Righteousness:
1. acting in accord with divine or moral law : free from guilt or sin
Poly fits that definition, she has chosen Christ, who is the Only One who can impart righteousness to sinners and cleans them by His blood.
Definition 2. a : morally right or justifiable
This is where those who are still steeped in sin fall into the definition. They are often found twisting the Righteous Ways of God to fit their world view and "justify" their own sin by their own "moral standard".
So in reality, those who defy the Word of God in favor of their own justification for sin are the self righteous among us, while those who seek Jesus Christ are justified by Him alone.
There are only two options:
1. The Law convicts and shows a need for repentance.
2. The Law is twisted to avoid being convicted and negating the need to repent.
If you decide on option 2, you have chosen to live under the law you are breaking and will be judged by, you have chosen your own self righteousness. Nice? No, I can't see anything nice about it, but that is the reality.
Greetings Nin
Well of course. Poly is sinless. It is MUCH EASIER for her to STAND ON HER OWN righteousness eh?
Hating beaieboy is WHAT GOD COMMANDS right?
How bout's joins Poly's SINLESS GOD ACTIVATORS CLUB?
Well isn't that the TRUTH...
Why of COURSE. Poly has INITIATED and EFFECTUATED the SPIRIT of the LIVING GOD who of course without POLY'S HELP is COMPLETELY WORTHLESS.
And we know that POLY's righteousness is FAR ABOVE that of any common homosexual.
Well of course. These later like YOU and POLY have been successful in TOTALLY ERADICATING your sins by YOUR ACTIVATING of the MOST HIGH God. This has resulted in your SINS being completely TAKEN AWAY, never to be heard from again.
Well we know for a CERTAINTY that the SINLESS ONES are KEEPING THE LAW in every single jot and tittle. How proud you must be of your "achievements."
Yes you HEATHEN. Activate God and BECOME SINLESS today. What is WRONG with you.
enjoy!
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Well of course. Poly is sinless. It is MUCH EASIER for her to STAND ON HER OWN righteousness eh?
Hating beaieboy is WHAT GOD COMMANDS right?
How bout's joins Poly's SINLESS GOD ACTIVATORS CLUB?
Well isn't that the TRUTH...
Why of COURSE. Poly has INITIATED and EFFECTUATED the SPIRIT of the LIVING GOD who of course without POLY'S HELP is COMPLETELY WORTHLESS.
And we know that POLY's righteousness is FAR ABOVE that of any common homosexual.
Well of course. These later like YOU and POLY have been successful in TOTALLY ERADICATING your sins by YOUR ACTIVATING of the MOST HIGH God. This has resulted in your SINS being completely TAKEN AWAY, never to be heard from again.
Well we know for a CERTAINTY that the SINLESS ONES are KEEPING THE LAW in every single jot and tittle. How proud you must be of your "achievements."
Yes you HEATHEN. Activate God and BECOME SINLESS today. What is WRONG with you.
enjoy!
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