Law v. Order

ClimateSanity

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You can only connect the two by emotional retort.
This argument is about the right's morally relative abuse of power in maintaining this power. The reporter incident is just an incidental illustration of it.
The reporter is part of the real power in this country, not Republican congressmen who haven't passed any laws in over a decade that made it all the way.
 

ClimateSanity

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http://nypost.com/2004/01/27/al-franken-knocks-down-dean-heckler/


EXETER, N.H. – Wise-cracking funnyman Al Franken yesterday body-slammed a demonstrator to the ground after the man tried to shout down Gov. Howard Dean.

The tussle left Franken’s trademark thick-rim glasses broken, but he said he was not injured.

Franken – who seemed in a state of shock and out of breath after the incident – was helped back to his feet by several people who watched the tussle. Police arrived soon after.

“I got down low and took his legs out,” said Franken afterwards.
 

ClimateSanity

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I guess you guess have no problem with this body slammer being in the Senate but see it as intolerable that an incoming congressman returned aggression with aggression? You do know the reporter just happened to have his recorder on when the incidence took place ?


From Susan Stamper Brown of Town hall:

Republicans should be on guard that the leftist-controlled media are not there to get facts; they are there to get at them. Reporters who “just happen” to have a recorder turned on will do their darnedest to bait politicians into physical altercations. As tempting as it might be, there’s no place in politics for body-slamming obnoxious metrosexual snowflake reporters, or any other kind for that matter.
 

rexlunae

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on what basis?

On the grounds that Congress has standards. It's a stretch, I know, but as nervous as it might make Paul Ryan, committing assault ought to be way out of bounds.

Constitutionally, each house of Congress has the ability to control its membership. If they want to wait for a conviction, fine, but if they let him skate on this, it's...well, bad, but not surprising.
 

rexlunae

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http://nypost.com/2004/01/27/al-franken-knocks-down-dean-heckler/


EXETER, N.H. – Wise-cracking funnyman Al Franken yesterday body-slammed a demonstrator to the ground after the man tried to shout down Gov. Howard Dean.

The tussle left Franken’s trademark thick-rim glasses broken, but he said he was not injured.

Franken – who seemed in a state of shock and out of breath after the incident – was helped back to his feet by several people who watched the tussle. Police arrived soon after.

“I got down low and took his legs out,” said Franken afterwards.

The answer is no, it's not acceptable behavior, however, no police report was filed, and thus no charges came of it.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/jan/28/20040128-114415-1604r/

Also, from a basic free speech perspective, Franken's actions were protecting a speaker from being shouted down by someone who people there did not come to see, while Gianforte's actions were an attempt to avoid answering a question he didn't want to hear. It makes little difference to the law, but it makes a lot of difference morally.
 

ClimateSanity

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The answer is no, it's not acceptable behavior, however, no police report was filed, and thus no charges came of it.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/jan/28/20040128-114415-1604r/

Also, from a basic free speech perspective, Franken's actions were protecting a speaker from being shouted down by someone who people there did not come to see, while Gianforte's actions were an attempt to avoid answering a question he didn't want to hear. It makes little difference to the law, but it makes a lot of difference morally.
It's ok to body slam if the motive is good? Alrighty then.
 

Arthur Brain

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I'll have to see the video. Some people need a beating. Arthur Brain comes to mind. Trayvon Martin. Michael Brown. Maybe a beating would have changed the attitudes of the departed and saved their lives. The Bible says so.

Oh, you wouldn't be advocating violence there would ya Nicky?

Oh, you sad, sad, very little man...

:rotfl:
 
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