ECT JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF FOUNDED THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
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Agreed. He needs what Otis gave Mrs.Otis-a leg of lamb, right across her chops.
SaulToPaul 2
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Yes sir, that might knock an ounce or two of religion out of him.
Choleric
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My point is you seem to be discounting a man because you say he is not under any authority. I say that is hogwash.
Ruckman is the husband of one wife. He is crass and I don't like everything he says, but the man is a great bible teacher.
HisServant
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If he had the spirit of God... he would not be teaching... period. Teaching requires being a servant and being humble.. he has neither.
Choleric
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He passed away last thursday, so you don't have to worry about being wrong on this issue anymore.
HisServant
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Never worried about it for even a single millisecond.... but thanks anyway.
Choleric
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You probably should. God hates those that sow discord and slander. You need to brush up on the bible before you go making God angry at you.
HisServant
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But it does say to expose and have nothing to do with false teachers... and that is what I have done... the guy was certifiable and now will stand in front of the judgement seat where God can do what he wants with him.
Choleric
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you just made that up. Please name one thing that he taught that was false. You can't, because you are parroting something you heard, not something you can prove.
HisServant
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KJV-Onlyist... nothing more needs to be said.. the KJV was his God.
He didn't believe abortion was murder. He believed in UFO's..
Do you want me to go on?
Choleric
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That is patently false. He believed the God of the universe was capable of keeping HIs Word from corrution. Imagine!
I agree that his position on abortion was not correct, but he didn't think it should be legal either. It's not like he was pro abortion, he simply had a doctrinal difference on what the "breath of life" was and whether that constituted the beginning of life. It was a doctrinal difference but he didn't advocate or support abortion in any way.
And there are UFO's in the bible.
Please, so far you are 0-3.
HisServant
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No... the first point is nothing more than a man made doctrine...the KJV is nothing special in any way shape or form... as a matter of fact it was a political tool of King James.
No. #2 it is quite plain in scripture that God know us in the womb.
No, #3... there is ezekiel's vision in the scripture, but to equate that with real life is stupid.
I am batting 3 for 3
Choleric
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Ok, so show me from the KJV how it is nothing special. What is so sad is that Christians have no problem believing God can create the universe out of nothing, hang the earth upon nothing, come to earth in a body of flesh as a man, and yet you have such problems believing that God can keep His Word, which He has "magnified above" His name, pure and perfect.
I think it is "before I formed you in the womb", correct? And I agree with you on this point, but it is a doctrinal disagreement, not social. Ruckman wasn't for abortion.
Ok, you are welcome to not believe that, but while you may disagree, that does not disqualify a man from teaching and preaching.
I am batting 3 for 3[/QUOTE]
I agree with you
Trump Gurl
Credo in Unum Deum
[h=2]JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF FOUNDED THE CATHOLIC CHURCH[/h]
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I agree.
Trump Gurl
Credo in Unum Deum
You are Catholic right? You don't post very much in these threads do you.
Trump Gurl
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I want to use that
Yes Catholic
I was one of the top posters but now do not have all that energy.
Most of my posting is now on a blog about the Apocalypse which has always been my priority.
Thank you for asking.
From Gotquestions.org
The Roman Catholic Church contends that its origin is the death, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus Christ in approximately AD 30. The Catholic Church proclaims itself to be the church that Jesus Christ died for, the church that was established and built by the apostles. Is that the true origin of the Catholic Church?
On the contrary. Even a cursory reading of the New Testament will reveal that the Catholic Church does not have its origin in the teachings of Jesus or His apostles. In the New Testament, there is no mention of the papacy, worship/adoration of Mary (or the immaculate conception of Mary, the perpetual virginity of Mary, the assumption of Mary, or Mary as co-redemptrix and mediatrix), petitioning saints in heaven for their prayers, apostolic succession, the ordinances of the church functioning as sacraments, infant baptism, confession of sin to a priest, purgatory, indulgences, or the equal authority of church tradition and Scripture. So, if the origin of the Catholic Church is not in the teachings of Jesus and His apostles, as recorded in the New Testament, what is the true origin of the Catholic Church?
For the first 280 years of Christian history, Christianity was banned by the Roman Empire, and Christians were terribly persecuted. This changed after the “conversion” of the Roman Emperor Constantine. Constantine provided religious toleration with the Edict of Milan in AD 313, effectively lifting the ban on Christianity. Later, in AD 325, Constantine called the Council of Nicea in an attempt to unify Christianity. Constantine envisioned Christianity as a religion that could unite the Roman Empire, which at that time was beginning to fragment and divide. While this may have seemed to be a positive development for the Christian church, the results were anything but positive. Just as Constantine refused to fully embrace the Christian faith but continued many of his pagan beliefs and practices, so the Christian church that Constantine and his successors promoted progressively became a mixture of true Christianity and Roman paganism.
Following are a few examples:
Most Roman Catholic beliefs and practices regarding Mary are completely absent from the Bible. Where did those beliefs come from? The Roman Catholic view of Mary has far more in common with the Isis mother-goddess religion of Egypt than it does with anything taught in the New Testament. Interestingly, the first hints of Catholic Mariology occur in the writings of Origen, who lived in Alexandria, Egypt, which happened to be the focal point of Isis worship.
The Lord’s Supper being a consumption of the literal body and blood of Jesus is not taught in the Bible. The idea that bread and wine are miraculously transformed into the literal body and blood of Jesus (transubstantiation) is not biblical. However, several ancient pagan religions, including Mithraism, which was very popular in the Roman Empire, had some form of “theophagy” (the eating of one’s god) as a ritualistic practice.
Roman Catholicism has “saints” one can pray to in order to gain a particular blessing. For example, Saint Gianna Beretta Molla is the patron saint of fertility. Francis of Assisi is the patron saint of animals. There are multiple patron saints of healing and comfort. Nowhere is even a hint of this taught in Scripture. Just as the Roman pantheon of gods had a god of love, a god of peace, a god of war, a god of strength, a god of wisdom, etc., so the Catholic Church has a saint who is “in charge” over each of these and many other categories. Many Roman cities had a god specific to the city, and the Catholic Church provided “patron saints” for cities as well.
The idea that the Roman bishop is the vicar of Christ, the supreme leader of the Christian Church, is utterly foreign to the Word of God. The supremacy of the Roman bishop (the papacy) was created with the support of the Roman emperors. While most other bishops (and Christians) resisted the idea of the Roman bishop being supreme, the Roman bishop eventually rose to supremacy, again, due to the power and influence of the Roman emperors. After the western half of the Roman Empire collapsed, the popes took on the title that had previously belonged to the Roman emperors—Pontifex Maximus.
Many more examples could be given. These four should suffice in demonstrating the origin of the Catholic Church. Of course, the Roman Catholic Church denies the pagan origin of its beliefs and practices. The Catholic Church disguises its pagan beliefs under layers of complicated theology and church tradition. Recognizing that many of its beliefs and practices are utterly foreign to Scripture, the Catholic Church is forced to deny the authority and sufficiency of Scripture.
The origin of the Catholic Church is the tragic compromise of Christianity with the pagan religions that surrounded it. Instead of proclaiming the gospel and converting the pagans, the Catholic Church “Christianized” the pagan religions and “paganized” Christianity. By blurring the differences and erasing the distinctions, the Catholic Church made itself attractive to the idolatrous people of the Roman Empire. One result was the Catholic Church becoming the supreme religion in the Roman world for centuries. However, another result was the most dominant form of Christianity apostatizing from the true gospel of Jesus Christ and the true proclamation of God’s Word.
Second Timothy 4:3–4 declares, “For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.”