Jesus CANNOT be Jehovah/YHVH God
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The words for false in Hebrew and in Greek means something that generates lies and falsehoods. It is worse than false. Thus a false pen exists but generates falsehood nonetheless.
In other words, you know you can't deal with my objection.
It means there is only one authentic god. If the sons of God talk to you, they are false gods, and you are smoking weed.
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In other words, you cannot respond to anything that I actually wrote in my posts, so you're just going to blow gobbledygook in my eyes. Thanks for nothing!
False in the bible means something which exists and puts out lies. Have you heard of the false pen of scribes? It existed.
If you believe Jesus is God, you have a "false God".
By contrast, the Scriptures ONLY state that Jesus is THE SON OF God.
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To come up with the stuff that YOU're writing, here, one must be smoking weed, indeed!
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There, again, you are blaspheming Jesus by saying that He is a false God. That's because you're a Christ-hater.
Here, you're denying (among other things) that the Scriptures state that Jesus' heavenly Father IS God. Brilliant move!
Correct, and God is telling that man, "I have made thee as God (Elohiym) to Pharaoh".
Correct, and Peter is stating that a man, Jesus of Nazareth, spoke FOR God.W2G said:
Not quite. Jesus NEVER said "not God's commandments". Those are your words, which contradict Jesus' words.W2G said:
Jesus said;
John 12:49 For I spake not from myself; but the Father that sent me, He hath given me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
It is a division like it or not.
But if you think him divine, when looking at it, thou art an idolater.
It reaches to why it isn't possible. God is not a man.
No Jew would go to a catholic service which has a model of Jesus being crucified. Idolatry will always be part of Roman Catholic religion.
I only hate FALSE Christs, which Jesus warned against;
Matt 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
I only hate "another Jesus", than the "Jesus" actually PREACHED by the apostles.
2 Cor 11:3-4 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
So far, NO ONE has produced ANY teacher of the Bible, explaining a trintarian/oneness "Jesus".
John warned against even voicing a blessing on those who abandon the REAL teachings of Christ;
2 John 9-11 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
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so ?
Moses still spoke as a man for God
Exo_5:1 Afterward Moses and Aaron went and said to Pharaoh, "Thus says the LORD, the God of Israel, 'Let my people go, that they may hold a feast to me in the wilderness.'"
Exo_7:16 And you shall say to him, 'The LORD, the God of the Hebrews, sent me to you, saying, "Let my people go, that they may serve me in the wilderness." But so far, you have not obeyed.
Exo_8:1 Then the LORD said to Moses, "Go in to Pharaoh and say to him, 'Thus says the LORD, "Let my people go, that they may serve me.
Exo_8:20 Then the LORD said to Moses, "Rise up early in the morning and present yourself to Pharaoh, as he goes out to the water, and say to him, 'Thus says the LORD, "Let my people go, that they may serve me.
yes Jesus spoke as God for God
still can't answer, not surprised.
Jesus said my commandments he did not say "keep God's commandments"
Jesus didn't say "thus saith the lord" instead he spoke from his authority as God and said my commandments.
and that would be blasphemous
if not for the fact that Jesus is God
This is Jesus speaking as God for God
Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
The scriptural proof has been laid out before you. But in your arrogant pride you have chosen to blind yourself to it. As long as you do that, the Truth and the Light will never enter into your heart.
As one being from the tribe of Judah, Jesus would be responsible for enforcing Israelite law. And the law of moses was given as a favor to the Israelites. Any Israelite might be able to claim it as their law, and thus anyone from the tribe of Judah especially. So what is your point?
Madame, you don't even know the empirical evidence. Go back to the vulgate, you won't find it there even.
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Idolatry is worship of idols.
By saying that worshiping Jesus is IDOLATRY, you are blaspheming Jesus--you are calling Jesus an IDOL. Since idols are an abomination unto God, you're calling Jesus an abomination unto God. Here's 1 John 5:21 KJV:
You are making John to say:
And, obviously, you have kept yourself away from Jesus; you're a Christ-hater.
If jesus were invisible, he would be god. He is not completely so. Thus he isn't god.
According to the parable of the good Samaritan, the Samaritan idolater helps an injured man out that no one Israelite would. The Samaritan is an idolater, and the Israelites weren't. If idolatry is an abomination, is the Good Samaritan would also be an abomination?
Idolatry is a minor sin.
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Please provide Scripture that states this.
There is no "Scriptural proof" for trinity, or oneness, there VAST numbers of verses that state, explain and preach the Biblical Unitarian God, and Jesus. But in your arrogant pride you have chosen to blind yourself to it. As long as you do that, the Truth and the Light will never enter into your heart.
The East believes the Spirit derives from the Father alone...
THe West insists the Spirit progresses from both Father and Son...
Odd that the Son is of the Holy Spirit and yet calls Another His Father...
So even amongst trinitarians there is schism...
We have a proper name for the Father...and a proper name for the Son...but no name for the Holy Spirit...
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