Everything is racist these days. Luckilyit'snotevilanymoreaccordingtoBarbarianohwait.
It's not new
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And sure enough you try playing the race card again. Why is it always about race for you guys?
Do you understand that's why people laugh at you?
There is some evidence to show that fear of immigrants has a neurological cause:
Peering inside the brain with MRI scans, researchers at University College London found that self-described conservative students had a larger amygdala than liberals. The amygdala is an almond-shaped structure deep in the brain that is active during states of fear and anxiety. Liberals had more gray matter at least in the anterior cingulate cortex, a region of the brain that helps people cope with complexity.
The results are not that surprising as they fit in with conclusions from other studies.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...1104/conservatives-big-fear-brain-study-finds
Curr Biol. 2011 Apr 26; 21(8): 677–680.
Political Orientations Are Correlated with Brain Structure in Young Adults
Summary
Substantial differences exist in the cognitive styles of liberals and conservatives on psychological measures [1]. Variability in political attitudes reflects genetic influences and their interaction with environmental factors [2, 3]. Recent work has shown a correlation between liberalism and conflict-related activity measured by event-related potentials originating in the anterior cingulate cortex [4]. Here we show that this functional correlate of political attitudes has a counterpart in brain structure. In a large sample of young adults, we related self-reported political attitudes to gray matter volume using structural MRI. We found that greater liberalism was associated with increased gray matter volume in the anterior cingulate cortex, whereas greater conservatism was associated with increased volume of the right amygdala. These results were replicated in an independent sample of additional participants. Our findings extend previous observations that political attitudes reflect differences in self-regulatory conflict monitoring [4] and recognition of emotional faces [5] by showing that such attitudes are reflected in human brain structure.
Peering inside the brain with MRI scans, researchers at University College London found that self-described conservative students had a larger amygdala than liberals. The amygdala is an almond-shaped structure deep in the brain that is active during states of fear and anxiety. Liberals had more gray matter at least in the anterior cingulate cortex, a region of the brain that helps people cope with complexity.
The results are not that surprising as they fit in with conclusions from other studies.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...1104/conservatives-big-fear-brain-study-finds
Curr Biol. 2011 Apr 26; 21(8): 677–680.
Political Orientations Are Correlated with Brain Structure in Young Adults
Summary
Substantial differences exist in the cognitive styles of liberals and conservatives on psychological measures [1]. Variability in political attitudes reflects genetic influences and their interaction with environmental factors [2, 3]. Recent work has shown a correlation between liberalism and conflict-related activity measured by event-related potentials originating in the anterior cingulate cortex [4]. Here we show that this functional correlate of political attitudes has a counterpart in brain structure. In a large sample of young adults, we related self-reported political attitudes to gray matter volume using structural MRI. We found that greater liberalism was associated with increased gray matter volume in the anterior cingulate cortex, whereas greater conservatism was associated with increased volume of the right amygdala. These results were replicated in an independent sample of additional participants. Our findings extend previous observations that political attitudes reflect differences in self-regulatory conflict monitoring [4] and recognition of emotional faces [5] by showing that such attitudes are reflected in human brain structure.
Sounds like an interesting topic. Start a thread. We're talking about why some people foolishly fear immigrants.
Why is it always about race for you guys?
Stripe's concern that racism might have something to do with nativist thinking is arguable. But anti-Semitism is more clearly involved:
In the "horrific hierarchy of white nationalist beliefs," Jews are considered the "primary enemy," Saslow says. "Throughout the history of the white nationalist movement, we've seen more attacks on synagogues, more bombing threats on Jewish schools than we have almost any other demographic group."
Saslow's most recent book, Rising Out of Hatred, chronicles the life of Derek Black, a young man who was once a leading voice in the white nationalist movement but has since denounced his views.
https://www.npr.org/2018/10/28/6616...rom-white-nationalism-to-the-synagogue-shoote
The target population changes over the years, depending on the people immigrating. Often, it's not racist at all. Being anti-German or anti-Italian isn't racist, for example. Anti-Semites are really reacting to a culture and a religion, as Jews are not racially homogenous.
Perhaps Stripe's new threat might give us a chance to discuss it.
In the "horrific hierarchy of white nationalist beliefs," Jews are considered the "primary enemy," Saslow says. "Throughout the history of the white nationalist movement, we've seen more attacks on synagogues, more bombing threats on Jewish schools than we have almost any other demographic group."
Saslow's most recent book, Rising Out of Hatred, chronicles the life of Derek Black, a young man who was once a leading voice in the white nationalist movement but has since denounced his views.
https://www.npr.org/2018/10/28/6616...rom-white-nationalism-to-the-synagogue-shoote
The target population changes over the years, depending on the people immigrating. Often, it's not racist at all. Being anti-German or anti-Italian isn't racist, for example. Anti-Semites are really reacting to a culture and a religion, as Jews are not racially homogenous.
Perhaps Stripe's new threat might give us a chance to discuss it.
No. You're attempting to paint a broad swath of society as racist, but when asked to name names, you run for the hills.
You're a coward.
It's not new.
From a conservative viewpoint:
So when I was asked about this article, I had something in the memory banks. This sort of nativist swill has been going around for decades, and frankly it’s plagued the conservative movement long enough. Of course, that really upset a good friend of mine when I fought fire with fire… but I think it’s time we, in Virginia, start having this conversation in earnest once again.
Should the nativists be welcomed in the GOP? Do conservatives have a moral duty to drive them out of the party?
There are 12 million people in the United States today who want a better lives for themselves and their families, whose only crime was that they came to America to do it.
The nativists have a very simple solution: apprehend all 12 million of them, boxcar them back to their point of origin, and drive them out as so many locusts. One recent article from the UK Economist outlined that simply warehousing that many people today costs about $5,000 per apprehension. That’s right — for bedding alone while ICE determines their legal status and where to ship them, it would cost the American taxpayer $6 billion just to house and feed 12 million immigrants.
…and that’s not including the cost of law enforcement, the judicial system, the cost of transport, and the like.
Here’s another tricky thing that nativists don’t mention in their rush to rescue Massive Resistance from the ashes of history: how precisely do you apprehend 12 million people? Checkpoints? Papers, papers please? Searches? NSA metadata? What civil liberties are we willing to surrender in order to perform all this D&E? Does the nativist opinion of a FEMA camp change if they turn into concentration camps for undocumented immigrants?
(1) The nativists have no home in the modern Republican Party. A small history lesson — the Republican Party is the party that ended slavery, that fought Jim Crow, that passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1950s and ushered in the civil rights era. The Republican Party is the party that is fighting against welfare, fighting against the entitlement system, fighting for individual freedom. The Republican Party is the party that embraces the single-largest non-violent civil rights protest in our nation’s history — the pro-life movement. The Republican Party is the party that destroyed Soviet Communism. The Republican Party is the party that fought for free goods and free trade. On the right side of history, you will find the GOP at every turn.
These clowns? These Know Nothings?
…have no place in our history.
They have no place in the history of a Free America.
They deserve nothing more than a footnote to the ignorance that liberty rightly stamps out.
(2) Conservatives have a moral duty to drive out nativism once and for all.
Free markets, free speech, and a free society — that is the cornerstone of American conservatism. We are a county that tears down walls, not one that builds them. The American conservative movement has driven out ideologies from our camp once before. We drove out the progressives and the America First movement in the 1940s. We did it again with the John Birch Society in the 1960s. We did it once again with the anarchists in the 1980s. Every time we have purged the ranks of poison, we have emerged stronger, producing leadership such as Eisenhower, Goldwater, and Reagan.
It’s time to clean house.
You will hear a lot of talk in the coming months about immigration reform. In it will be included guest worker programs, documented worker status, real border enforcement that doesn’t require walls, and a sound program that takes an antiquated immigration system and brings it into the 21st century. That’s not amnesty, that’s reform.
Conservatives embrace the idea of more Americans coming into this country to work hard and prosper.
Nativists reject Pedro.
The Republican Party has a duty to preserve what is ennobling about the American experiment. A modern day version of Operation Wetback with jackboots and checkpoints designed to boxcar 8-20 million people back “their point of origin” (read: Mexico) is obtuse at best and horribly violent to our civil liberties at worse. Conservatives are smarter than this, and America deserve better than nativist hate.
Drive ’em out, ladies and gentlemen. Generations are watching.
https://bearingdrift.com/2014/02/11/navitism-vs-conservatism/
A conservative who still believes in America. Turns out, there's a lot more of them than you might think.
So when I was asked about this article, I had something in the memory banks. This sort of nativist swill has been going around for decades, and frankly it’s plagued the conservative movement long enough. Of course, that really upset a good friend of mine when I fought fire with fire… but I think it’s time we, in Virginia, start having this conversation in earnest once again.
Should the nativists be welcomed in the GOP? Do conservatives have a moral duty to drive them out of the party?
There are 12 million people in the United States today who want a better lives for themselves and their families, whose only crime was that they came to America to do it.
The nativists have a very simple solution: apprehend all 12 million of them, boxcar them back to their point of origin, and drive them out as so many locusts. One recent article from the UK Economist outlined that simply warehousing that many people today costs about $5,000 per apprehension. That’s right — for bedding alone while ICE determines their legal status and where to ship them, it would cost the American taxpayer $6 billion just to house and feed 12 million immigrants.
…and that’s not including the cost of law enforcement, the judicial system, the cost of transport, and the like.
Here’s another tricky thing that nativists don’t mention in their rush to rescue Massive Resistance from the ashes of history: how precisely do you apprehend 12 million people? Checkpoints? Papers, papers please? Searches? NSA metadata? What civil liberties are we willing to surrender in order to perform all this D&E? Does the nativist opinion of a FEMA camp change if they turn into concentration camps for undocumented immigrants?
(1) The nativists have no home in the modern Republican Party. A small history lesson — the Republican Party is the party that ended slavery, that fought Jim Crow, that passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1950s and ushered in the civil rights era. The Republican Party is the party that is fighting against welfare, fighting against the entitlement system, fighting for individual freedom. The Republican Party is the party that embraces the single-largest non-violent civil rights protest in our nation’s history — the pro-life movement. The Republican Party is the party that destroyed Soviet Communism. The Republican Party is the party that fought for free goods and free trade. On the right side of history, you will find the GOP at every turn.
These clowns? These Know Nothings?
…have no place in our history.
They have no place in the history of a Free America.
They deserve nothing more than a footnote to the ignorance that liberty rightly stamps out.
(2) Conservatives have a moral duty to drive out nativism once and for all.
Free markets, free speech, and a free society — that is the cornerstone of American conservatism. We are a county that tears down walls, not one that builds them. The American conservative movement has driven out ideologies from our camp once before. We drove out the progressives and the America First movement in the 1940s. We did it again with the John Birch Society in the 1960s. We did it once again with the anarchists in the 1980s. Every time we have purged the ranks of poison, we have emerged stronger, producing leadership such as Eisenhower, Goldwater, and Reagan.
It’s time to clean house.
You will hear a lot of talk in the coming months about immigration reform. In it will be included guest worker programs, documented worker status, real border enforcement that doesn’t require walls, and a sound program that takes an antiquated immigration system and brings it into the 21st century. That’s not amnesty, that’s reform.
Conservatives embrace the idea of more Americans coming into this country to work hard and prosper.
Nativists reject Pedro.
The Republican Party has a duty to preserve what is ennobling about the American experiment. A modern day version of Operation Wetback with jackboots and checkpoints designed to boxcar 8-20 million people back “their point of origin” (read: Mexico) is obtuse at best and horribly violent to our civil liberties at worse. Conservatives are smarter than this, and America deserve better than nativist hate.
Drive ’em out, ladies and gentlemen. Generations are watching.
https://bearingdrift.com/2014/02/11/navitism-vs-conservatism/
A conservative who still believes in America. Turns out, there's a lot more of them than you might think.
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lifeguard at the cement pond
well, no
their only crime was that they did it without following the legal process for doing it
Conservatives are pansies.
And Darwinists care about how many people they can pretend are clapping them on, nothing else.
Who cares what number of people believe as you do? Wouldn't you rather be sure that you're on the right path?
He doesn't believe as I do in almost every other way. Like many other conservatives, he isn't libertarian, but he still believes in America. At one time, almost all conservatives did.
If you don't believe in America, why are you here?
(edit) Oh, right. You don't live here. Sorry.
That's nice.
We notice you completely avoided the question. Again.
If you don't believe in America, why are you there?
*EDIT* Oh, right. You want to destroy it. Sorry.
Bottom line, the ideology you hate so much:
Free markets, free speech, and a free society — that is the cornerstone of American conservatism. We are a county that tears down walls, not one that builds them. The American conservative movement has driven out ideologies from our camp once before. We drove out the progressives and the America First movement in the 1940s. We did it again with the John Birch Society in the 1960s. We did it once again with the anarchists in the 1980s. Every time we have purged the ranks of poison, we have emerged stronger, producing leadership such as Eisenhower, Goldwater, and Reagan.
Nativism is a disease that corrupts everything it touches. Hopefully, the conservative movement can cleanse itself and go on.
And now you're getting a little overexcited. So we'll give you some time to settle down. See you in a few weeks, Stripe.
Free markets, free speech, and a free society — that is the cornerstone of American conservatism. We are a county that tears down walls, not one that builds them. The American conservative movement has driven out ideologies from our camp once before. We drove out the progressives and the America First movement in the 1940s. We did it again with the John Birch Society in the 1960s. We did it once again with the anarchists in the 1980s. Every time we have purged the ranks of poison, we have emerged stronger, producing leadership such as Eisenhower, Goldwater, and Reagan.
Nativism is a disease that corrupts everything it touches. Hopefully, the conservative movement can cleanse itself and go on.
And now you're getting a little overexcited. So we'll give you some time to settle down. See you in a few weeks, Stripe.
If you had any willingness to engage sensibly, you might have a shot at learning something about what I believe.
No chance though.
There's a reason you're known as the most dishonest member of TOL.
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