Is there a risk of death from the covid vaccine?

marke

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That depends on how one analyzes the propaganda. Some say there is no connection between covid vaccines and the deaths of those who died shortly after receiving the vaccine. There are others who say we should take the vaccine for everyone else's benefit if not for our own. There are others who say the government should shut down and/or restrict the movements of those who refuse to take the vaccine. But what are the facts?

I found this. People dying from unknown causes shortly after taking the vaccine while officials supporting the government narratives insist they see no apparent link between the vaccine and the resulting deaths.

Here are quotes:


A few countries have reported deaths following administration of COVID-19 vaccines, but medical specialists have found no evidence of a connection to the inoculations.

Norwegian officials were the first to report people dying after being inoculated, saying in mid-January that 33 people age 75 and older had died a short time after receiving the COVID vaccine from Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE.

The U.K.’s Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency reported that as of Jan. 24, there were 143 deaths shortly after injections with the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine and another from AstraZeneca Plc, mainly in elderly people or those with underlying illness, and that there’s no suggestion the vaccines played a role.

And in the U.S., the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that as of Feb. 7, there were 1,170 reported deaths among people who received either the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine or another from Moderna Inc., a rate of 0.003%, and no evidence suggests a link.
Credible researchers warned that the mRNA covid-19 vaccine was likely to weaken the body's ability to combat other diseases while strengthening the body's defense against covid-19. Maybe those researchers know what they are talking about after all.

Israel’s top officials are warning that Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine is “significantly less” effective at combating the “Delta” variant of the CCP virus.
“We do not know exactly to what degree the vaccine helps, but it is significantly less,” Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett told reporters and cabinet members on July 17. He didn’t elaborate.
 

Derf

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I know that you are smart enough to know that a single case demonstrates nothing.
This from the guy who wrote this only a few weeks ago:
To repeat, here is an actual report from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS):

"Explosive Diarhea and a touch of the AIDS"

In honor of this gem, I offer the following limerick:

VAERS, surely truth mas-que-rades
Nutjob reports, throughout it pervades
One whackjob, quoth he
The Pfizer gave me
Hershey squirts and a touch o’ the AIDS
 

expos4ever

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You trust scientists who support the government narrative. I am more persuaded by what scientists say who warn of the dangers of the vaccines.

Recently Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche, a PhD scientist involved with vaccine development, has been making headlines with communities of concerned citizens, who are skeptical about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines. This, after an interview with him was published on Youtube.
From Snopes:

On March 6, 2021, a Belgian veterinarian named Geert Vanden Bossche published an open letter “to all authorities, scientists and experts around the world” asserting that, in his expert analysis, the current global COVID-19 vaccination program will “wipe out large parts of our human population.” The way to avoid this purported calamity, Vanden Bossche asserts, is for scientists to pay more attention to his own invention — a “universal vaccine” that uses the body’s innate immune system to kill SARS-CoV-2.

Perhaps no more tired a trope exists in the world of faux cures than the “I have found a problem that no other scientist in the world has thought of and only my untested and unproven cure can stop it” gambit. Vanden Bossche has been able to avoid allegations of peddling such a cure — at least in the credulous anti-vaccine community — because his resume legitimately includes stints at companies or initiatives involved in vaccine development, including The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Since 2014, however, he has been trying (apparently unsuccessfully) to develop his so-called universal vaccine. A company claiming to develop such a product is currently registered to an address identified on Yelp as his veterinary practice.


Now let me get this straight: you are asking us to deny what the overwhelming majority of experts say in deference to what one doctor who claims to have found a solution that all these other experts have overlooked?
 

expos4ever

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It looks like, according to popular methods of drawing wild conclusions from data sets, we can assume that higher percentages of vaccinated people in a population lead to higher incidences of covid infections, given the evidence in Britain.
Please be more clear - what, exactly, are you saying?
 

expos4ever

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Some people who refused to get the vaccine have gotten sick and died. Some who have taken the vaccine have gotten sick from covid or from the side effects of the vaccine.
What rubbish. This is like saying "some have worn seatbelts and been saved from death in a collision while others have been killed by their seatbelts when they otherwise would have survived."

As you habitually do, you intentionally withhold information from the reader to advance your reckless, irresponsible ideas. In this case, a more truthful version of your assertion is this:

Some people who refused to get the vaccine have gotten sick and died. Some who have taken the vaccine have gotten sick from covid or from the side effects of the vaccine. However, the damage wrought by avoiding the vaccine greatly outweighs the damages wrought by the vaccine itself.
 

marke

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From Snopes:

On March 6, 2021, a Belgian veterinarian named Geert Vanden Bossche published an open letter “to all authorities, scientists and experts around the world” asserting that, in his expert analysis, the current global COVID-19 vaccination program will “wipe out large parts of our human population.” The way to avoid this purported calamity, Vanden Bossche asserts, is for scientists to pay more attention to his own invention — a “universal vaccine” that uses the body’s innate immune system to kill SARS-CoV-2.

Perhaps no more tired a trope exists in the world of faux cures than the “I have found a problem that no other scientist in the world has thought of and only my untested and unproven cure can stop it” gambit. Vanden Bossche has been able to avoid allegations of peddling such a cure — at least in the credulous anti-vaccine community — because his resume legitimately includes stints at companies or initiatives involved in vaccine development, including The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Since 2014, however, he has been trying (apparently unsuccessfully) to develop his so-called universal vaccine. A company claiming to develop such a product is currently registered to an address identified on Yelp as his veterinary practice.


Now let me get this straight: you are asking us to deny what the overwhelming majority of experts say in deference to what one doctor who claims to have found a solution that all these other experts have overlooked?
You make a huge mistake by suggesting truth resides in majority mob opinions. How many deceived people believed Trump colluded to steal DNC emails in 2016? How many people believed masks are effective in stopping the flow of covid particles?
 

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If it were possible for abrupt shifts in political messaging to induce whiplash, millions of Republican voters would be wearing neck braces this week. After months of deliberately cultivating skepticism about the efficacy and safety of COVID-19 vaccines, a number of conservative talking heads and elected officeholders have done a 180 on the issue this week...

 

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If it were possible for abrupt shifts in political messaging to induce whiplash, millions of Republican voters would be wearing neck braces this week. After months of deliberately cultivating skepticism about the efficacy and safety of COVID-19 vaccines, a number of conservative talking heads and elected officeholders have done a 180 on the issue this week...

Both parties suck... so why do you defend one of them?
 
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